or Connect
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › Mountain/Resort Related Forums › Resorts, Conditions & Travel › Solo Ski Trip!?!? Salt Lake city/Park City
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Solo Ski Trip!?!? Salt Lake city/Park City - Page 4

post #91 of 116

I realize I'll never convince EaglePdx, but the OP is an advanced skier from Sugarloaf skiing solo on a first ever trip to Utah.  The idea of someone like that staying in Kimball Junction to ski third rate areas in Utah's regional context rather than the crown jewels of Alta and Snowbird, I don't get that at all.

 

And suppose the OP wants to form his own opinion on a first trip to Utah instead of just taking my or anyone else's word for it?  That's a big reason to rent a car, try lots of different places.  Also the discount lift tickets are down in SLC ski shops, not up in Park City.

post #92 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post
 

I realize I'll never convince EaglePdx, but the OP is an advanced skier from Sugarloaf skiing solo on a first ever trip to Utah.  The idea of someone like that staying in Kimball Junction to ski third rate areas in Utah's regional context rather than the crown jewels of Alta and Snowbird, I don't get that at all.

 

And suppose the OP wants to form his own opinion on a first trip to Utah instead of just taking my or anyone else's word for it?  That's a big reason to rent a car, try lots of different places.  Also the discount lift tickets are down in SLC ski shops, not up in Park City.

 

Chuckle...ah...the "third rate" Park City...home of US Ski Team and Park City Ski team regularly crushes Snowbird...must be the "third rate snow".   Alta and Snowbird are nice but no one drives from PC to ski them.  There's just not that much difference.  Fun to check them out for someone who has never skied them but in planning a UT ski trip, stay in the world's top ski town, Park City, save $500-$1000 in car rental expense and ski some Olympic runs using free public transport vs. staying in Midvale...good grief...it's not a real choice.

 

I ski UT every year, have for the last 15 years.  Friends used to live in Avenues and we'd ski Little Cottonwood all the time. They moved to PC, we ski PC/DV.  I try and get them to do an Altabird trip when I'm there but they ask "Why?" and there's no good answer.

 

To the OP's questions, free at Kimball Junction with no need for car rental, skiing everywhere is the way to go.  Use that $500 to stay an extra few days, buy some gear.

post #93 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 

 

Chuckle...ah...the "third rate" Park City...home of US Ski Team and Park City Ski team regularly crushes Snowbird...must be the "third rate snow".   Alta and Snowbird are nice but no one drives from PC to ski them.  There's just not that much difference.  Fun to check them out for someone who has never skied them but in planning a UT ski trip, stay in the world's top ski town, Park City, save $500-$1000 in car rental expense and ski some Olympic runs using free public transport vs. staying in Midvale...good grief...it's not a real choice.

 

I ski UT every year, have for the last 15 years.  Friends used to live in Avenues and we'd ski Little Cottonwood all the time. They moved to PC, we ski PC/DV.  I try and get them to do an Altabird trip when I'm there but they ask "Why?" and there's no good answer.

 

To the OP's questions, free at Kimball Junction with no need for car rental, skiing everywhere is the way to go.  Use that $500 to stay an extra few days, buy some gear.

Someone hasn't skied very many places in this world to call Park City the world's best. IMO, it's not even top 10. Of course, everyone has their opinions. For a first timer to UT, I would recommend hitting PC for a day to get an idea if it is in fact a top ten ski town in the "entire world!" And anyone who pays $500-$1000 for a rental AWD is doing it wrong. I've got a mid-size 4WD reserved for next week, for the grand total of $332 bucks for 8 days.

 

Right now I'm just praying for fresh snow. If it happens to fall all on the Park City ski resorts, and bypass the LCC ski areas, I will happily ski DV, PCMR, and the Canyons. Just, please, PLEASE, let it snow!!!!

post #94 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
 

Right now I'm just praying for fresh snow. If it happens to fall all on the Park City ski resorts, and bypass the LCC ski areas, I will happily ski DV, PCMR, and the Canyons. Just, please, PLEASE, let it snow!!!!

 

This^

post #95 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
 

Someone hasn't skied very many places in this world to call Park City the world's best. IMO, it's not even top 10.

 

Someone called PC's worlds best ski town.  Certainly in the top 10.  Midvale ranks...hmmm?  The dorms at Alta...I'd take Midvale? 

post #96 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 

 

Chuckle...ah...the "third rate" Park City...home of US Ski Team and Park City Ski team regularly crushes Snowbird...must be the "third rate snow".   Alta and Snowbird are nice but no one drives from PC to ski them.  There's just not that much difference.  Fun to check them out for someone who has never skied them but in planning a UT ski trip, stay in the world's top ski town, Park City, save $500-$1000 in car rental expense and ski some Olympic runs using free public transport vs. staying in Midvale...good grief...it's not a real choice.

 

I ski UT every year, have for the last 15 years.  Friends used to live in Avenues and we'd ski Little Cottonwood all the time. They moved to PC, we ski PC/DV.  I try and get them to do an Altabird trip when I'm there but they ask "Why?" and there's no good answer.

 

To the OP's questions, free at Kimball Junction with no need for car rental, skiing everywhere is the way to go.  Use that $500 to stay an extra few days, buy some gear.

I'd really stop the chuckling if I were you; it just exacerbates the ill-informed foolishness that follows. 

 

How does Park City "crush" Snowbird? It's essentially fact that Snowbird has better advanced/expert terrain, more legit vertical, a simpler, more logical layout and lift system, and MUCH more snow. It absolutely dominates PC in every metric that matters to real skiers. 

 

Nobody travels from PC to Bird-Alta? So you've done extensive interviewing of everyone that lives in and travels to Park City? Just because your friends don't do it, doesn't mean no one does. You really think PC locals and visitors don't make the trip around to LCC when it's hit with a foot of snow and PC gets 3, a scenario that is not uncommon at all. There's the "why" you can counter with the next time your friends inquire. 

 

The specific rating scale is debatable, but I'd agree with the "third rate" designation

 

1. Snowbird/Alta/Snowbasin - that's based on terrain and snow (Basin doesn't get as much snow, but the lack of crowds means any given skier can)

 

2. Solitude/Brighton/Powder Mountain - not as good of terrain, but great snow that lasts longer than LCC

 

3. Park City resorts - not as good of snow, not that great of terrain. #1 in ski town and nightlife, though. 

 

4. Other smaller UT resorts 

post #97 of 116

Any "top 10 ski towns" list is going to be extremely subjective because there are just so many variables. What is important to one skier isn't to another and vice versa. Also, let's be honest, how many people can actually give an objective opinion on a top 10 list like that? I've been to a grand total of 4 "ski towns" in my life. How many has the average skier been to? 5? 10? 20???

 

In terms of a "ski town" PC is the best I've been to in my limited ski travels!

post #98 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 

 

Someone called PC's worlds best ski town.  Certainly in the top 10.  Midvale ranks...hmmm?  The dorms at Alta...I'd take Midvale? 

Chuckle, chuckle, tee-hee ... A list of top 10 ski towns in the world probably shouldn't include anywhere in the United States. Europe's ski towns blow us out of the water, and there are plenty of them. The only reason US ski towns get included is because those lists are written specifically for or inclusive of a US audience. I will agree that PC is a top ski town for the US, though not necessarily the best. 

post #99 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post
 

I'd really stop the chuckling if I were you; it just exacerbates the ill-informed foolishness that follows.

 

Chuckle.  I realize it drives folks to post silly stuff like calling Park City "third rate ski town" vs. Midvale, US but then it's good for a laugh.

post #100 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Govnor View Post
 

Any "top 10 ski towns" list is going to be extremely subjective because there are just so many variables. What is important to one skier isn't to another and vice versa. Also, let's be honest, how many people can actually give an objective opinion on a top 10 list like that? I've been to a grand total of 4 "ski towns" in my life. How many has the average skier been to? 5? 10? 20???

 

In terms of a "ski town" PC is the best I've been to in my limited ski travels!

 

Average skier likely 1 or 2 ski towns.  Followed the PC Ski Team around for five years so got to see a few.  Whitefish, Mammoth, Jackson, Whistler (man made town vs. PC but great place), Ketchum.  PC is a real town and the lifts run right into the town, the free buses are great. 

 

To OP's questions, staying in PC at the Junction is a way better ski town experience than Alta's dorms (can you say say stir crazy?) or Midvale.  That for the OP it would save $500-$1000 on a car makes it a no brainer.

post #101 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 

 

Chuckle.  I realize it drives folks to post silly stuff like calling Park City "third rate ski town" vs. Midvale, US but then it's good for a laugh.

Do you know how to read? No..really, do you?

 

No one's questioned that PC is a good ski town. Tony said third rate "ski area," which is an entirely different thing.

post #102 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post
 

 

No one's questioned that PC is a good ski town. Tony said third rate "ski area," which is an entirely different thing.

 

Also worthy of a chuckle...see some Ted Ligety comments on PC skiing.

 

OP was asking best place to stay (fer shure Kimball Junction PC) to ski PC, Altabird etc.  He had free at the PC Junction so the best place to stay, top 10 ski town with free bus and easy to ski Altabird for $35 shuttle.

post #103 of 116
Thread Starter 
As of now I'm splitting 3 days at each and my hotel in midvale is less then 5 minutes to 2 different shuttle routes. Due to the Epic gathering being at snowbird and solitude my first 2 days I'm sticking with that plan for now because 2 days in a row of catching shuttles from PC to lcc sounds like a long day. Saturday I'm gonna rest and switch to PC and probly get a jeep feom parkcity 4x4 and go see some of the sites.
post #104 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by discme1971 View Post

As of now I'm splitting 3 days at each and my hotel in midvale is less then 5 minutes to 2 different shuttle routes. Due to the Epic gathering being at snowbird and solitude my first 2 days I'm sticking with that plan for now because 2 days in a row of catching shuttles from PC to lcc sounds like a long day. Saturday I'm gonna rest and switch to PC and probly get a jeep feom parkcity 4x4 and go see some of the sites.

 

Don't forget to mention Epic for the discount.

post #105 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 

 

Someone called PC's worlds best ski town.  Certainly in the top 10.  Midvale ranks...hmmm?  The dorms at Alta...I'd take Midvale? 

I'll tell you what, I'll concede that PC is a great place for competitive skiers and Olympians, and you admit that you were totally wrong about the tire thing. Done deal? 

post #106 of 116
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ParkCity4WD View Post
 

 

Don't forget to mention Epic for the discount.

Thumbs Up

post #107 of 116
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post
 

I realize I'll never convince EaglePdx, but the OP is an advanced skier from Sugarloaf skiing solo on a first ever trip to Utah.  The idea of someone like that staying in Kimball Junction to ski third rate areas in Utah's regional context rather than the crown jewels of Alta and Snowbird, I don't get that at all.

 

And suppose the OP wants to form his own opinion on a first trip to Utah instead of just taking my or anyone else's word for it?  That's a big reason to rent a car, try lots of different places.  Also the discount lift tickets are down in SLC ski shops, not up in Park City.

 

I have to say this is closer to my train of thought. I'm positive PC has more then I could ever wish for but from all the research and responses I don't think I could look back on this trip and not have regret if I didn't do at least 1 of the mountains in the lcc.  I've spent a week in Aspen on 2 separate occasions with friends and the skitown thing is cool but I definitely want to make this time more about the skiing, there was a couple of my ski days where the morning was rough and I wished I had holed up by myself the night before. Plus Alta/Snowbird has the boarding pass special for the half price ticket within 24 hours of arriving. I see PC used to do it free but unless I'm mistaken I can't find that deal being offered this year.

post #108 of 116
Don’t get me wrong, Alta/bird is one of my favorite ski areas in the whole world. But at the same time, PC is a very good ski area. Both will be fun and which one you like better will vary depending on what you prioritize.

PC is better for:
Restaurants
Easier access (due to LCC road closures & traffic)
Groomed runs
Non-skiing activities

Alta/snowbird is better for:
Snow (assuming you like powder)
Expert skiing (way better)

Sounds like you have a good idea to ski booth and make your own conclusions. The only downside is the extra travel but it’s minor for most people. Enjoy your trip.

Oh, and regarding ground transport, I wouldn’t spend a fortune on a 4x4. If you can get a good deal on a 4x4 great, but I usually get a cheap 2-wheel drive and then take the bus if it snows. You can skip a car altogether and take the ski bus but doing so limits your options and doesn’t save that much. I’m a big fan of staying in LCC (walk to lifts) but you pay for it.
post #109 of 116
Quote:

The specific rating scale is debatable, but I'd agree with the "third rate" designation

 

1. Snowbird/Alta/Snowbasin - that's based on terrain and snow (Basin doesn't get as much snow, but the lack of crowds means any given skier can)

 

2. Solitude/Brighton/Powder Mountain - not as good of terrain, but great snow that lasts longer than LCC

 

3. Park City resorts - not as good of snow, not that great of terrain. #1 in ski town and nightlife, though. 

 

4. Other smaller UT resorts  

Precisely my line of reasoning. 

Quote:
 Park City...home of US Ski Team 

Racers like/need hard snow.  I'm guessing that a Maine skier on his first trip to Utah is looking for something else.:ROTF 

 

I agree that Park City is among the elite of ski towns in North America.  However I'm guessing that since the OP is solo, skiing considerations are his top priority for this trip.

 

It sounds like he's making good calls.  With the Gathering skiing LCC/BCC at the start of his trip, that has to be a great intro to speed up the learning curve at those areas.  I'd still advise him to check out Snowbasin one of the days he's at Kimball Junction, and I think he'll need a car for at least that day.  When you add up transfers airport to Midvale, Midvale to Kimball Junction and Kimball Junction back to airport, I think he's going to be close to the cost of renting a basic car for the whole trip.

post #110 of 116

Going to Utah for a ski trip and not skiing Alta / Snowbird = epic fail.  That is all.

post #111 of 116

Well, Eagles says "Alta and Snowbird are a bit over rated." (post 29) :rolleyes

 

Shows you what internet info is worth.

post #112 of 116

Go To Utah. Ski everything. Have fun.

 

The end.

 

(Drink a Polygamy Porter, just because you can)

post #113 of 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanvg View Post

PC is better for:
Restaurants
Easier access (due to LCC road closures & traffic)
Groomed runs
Non-skiing activities

Alta/snowbird is better for:
Snow (assuming you like powder)
Expert skiing (way better)

Oh, and regarding ground transport, I wouldn’t spend a fortune on a 4x4. If you can get a good deal on a 4x4 great, but I usually get a cheap 2-wheel drive and then take the bus if it snows. You can skip a car altogether and take the ski bus but doing so limits your options and doesn’t save that much. I’m a big fan of staying in LCC (walk to lifts) but you pay for it.

Came into this discussion late so didn't read all the way through and won't add much. When we went there a few years ago, didn't know anyone or have much in the way of good tips, but we rented an efficiency suite in the Sandy Marriott Residence Inn (very clean) and rode the UTA ski bus daily to either Alta, Solitude, or Brighton (twice!) - all fun in their own way and not too resort-ish. A hotel shuttle had us at the bus stop in minutes, and while the bus ride for a couple of bucks each way was a little long (45 minutes each way?), we enjoyed talking to people when we had the energy, or just looking around at the town. We had also rented a basic car, but that stayed mostly parked except for a trip to Super Target to load the fridge or to the pizza place. Usually we were too pooped to want to go out again once we got back to our room and stripped off the layers. 

 

On one sunny good-driving day, we drove over the mountain range to Park City and enjoyed the beautiful scenery and happy crowds at PCMR. All of our experiences were good and varied depending on resort, and we loved having the flexibility of doing whatever we wanted, wherever. If I were to do it again, I might look for a place near the base of the canyons (LCC/BCC) just to slightly cut down on transit time (by 20 minutes, maybe), but I would still depend on the ski bus as it takes all of the stress out of driving in bad weather. And I would also like to get back over to PC for one of those three resorts. Oh, and I'm glad that we got to take a quick peek at the Olympic Park in PC, too, as we headed out of town!

 

Good luck and enjoy!

Kitty

post #114 of 116

…my two cents…..   Coming from Maine (I am your near neighbour to the north in Quebec!) all the Utah areas will rock your world!  I ski mainly Alta, all these areas are big, and it takes time to learn where to find the hidden caches.  No problem skiing Alta solo IF you stick to groomers, or open bowls/faces. So the backside yes, the outer reaches of Catherrines, or in the trees and steep in Wildcat, well, if you kiss a tree, or end up in a tree-well, not good if you are alone.  It should not be hard to hook up with folks for a run or two.  Lots of the more remote terrain is off traverses and/or mini-hikes, so ask folks and almost everyone will say yes (I know I will, and I am soloing Alta for much of Feb.!)  As for car rental deals.  I went with hotwire, and scored an extra large SUV for a whole month for $700!  So I plan on picking up folks along the way up and down the canyon, and making friends that way.  Check the site regularly, prices change all the time, and sometimes they are crazy cheap.  With the relative lack of snow, it is time to haggle and bargain!

post #115 of 116

Discme - how was your experience? 


Edited by Rsknight1 - 1/25/14 at 6:26pm
post #116 of 116
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsknight1 View Post

Discme - how was your experience? 
Supposed to fly out on wednesday and we're execting 4-8" here in new england starting to get worried my flight will get canceled.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Resorts, Conditions & Travel
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › Mountain/Resort Related Forums › Resorts, Conditions & Travel › Solo Ski Trip!?!? Salt Lake city/Park City