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post #31 of 38
Certainly a glowing reccomendation Paul. If I get a chance, I might demo a pair. However, I have picked up a few pairs of " do everything skis" over the years and by default now have a quiver.
post #32 of 38
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Certainly a glowing reccomendation Paul. If I get a chance, I might demo a pair. However, I have picked up a few pairs of " do everything skis" over the years and by default now have a quiver.


I am curious, what did you get in the past, thinking they would be good for overseas and Australian hard snow, in my opinion such a ski has never existed before as Powder skis were too rockered, too big a radius and often lacked edge hold, Aussie on piste skis didn't have enough rocker and were generally too stiff and too narrow to be great powder skis.

post #33 of 38
My first " do it all" skis were Head Monster 77's. They have visited 16 Canadian hills, Niseko, Hotham. In hindsight, I should have gabbed th 88's but wanting a ski to use on Oz as well, I went th 77's. They were considered mid-fats back then and 88mm waist was thought to be crazy in Oz.

Second pair of 'do it alls' were Volkl Mantras. Was finding Monsters hard work in Niseko so I gabbed a pair of these. If I had to clear ou th cupboard, these would be the keepers. Still not pow floaters but versatile.

Have a pair of Ninthward THA's which I've use at Nagano, Craigieburn/Broken River, and on Hutt ice. These would also be contenders if I had to clear outthe cupboard.

My boomerangs are obviously pow skis so don't count as 'do it alls". Japan only ( maybe get called up if I go to Utah)

I would have a hard time deciding between he Mantras and Ninthwards if I could only have one pair.

Moot point though as I rarely ski in Oz anymore. Maybe the occasional school ski trip to Hotham in September. The Mantras would get selected for Aussie Spring skiing.

Zarb is looking for his first pair of "do if alls" and th Rossis sound like they may do the job but IMO, if he become addicted to Japan which many of us have, he may be wanting to go wider. The quiver has started.
I still reckon a wide ski for Japan + a narrower ski for Oz. Install some Binding Freedom inserts ta da, one set of bindings.

BTW, what say you about becoming a Binding Freedom distributor/installer? No Aus dealer at the moment and you have a good online setup. Just saying.

Cheers
post #34 of 38
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BTW, what say you about becoming a Binding Freedom distributor/installer? No Aus dealer at the moment and you have a good online setup. Just saying.

Cheers

I already stock and fit Quiver killers, am I right in assuming these are similiar ?

post #35 of 38
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My first " do it all" skis were Head Monster 77's. They have visited 16 Canadian hills, Niseko, Hotham. In hindsight, I should have gabbed th 88's but wanting a ski to use on Oz as well, I went th 77's. They were considered mid-fats back then and 88mm waist was thought to be crazy in Oz.

Second pair of 'do it alls' were Volkl Mantras. Was finding Monsters hard work in Niseko so I gabbed a pair of these. If I had to clear ou th cupboard, these would be the keepers. Still not pow floaters but versatile.

Have a pair of Ninthward THA's which I've use at Nagano, Craigieburn/Broken River, and on Hutt ice. These would also be contenders if I had to clear outthe cupboard.

My boomerangs are obviously pow skis so don't count as 'do it alls". Japan only ( maybe get called up if I go to Utah)

I would have a hard time deciding between he Mantras and Ninthwards if I could only have one pair.

Moot point though as I rarely ski in Oz anymore. Maybe the occasional school ski trip to Hotham in September. The Mantras would get selected for Aussie Spring skiing.

Zarb is looking for his first pair of "do if alls" and th Rossis sound like they may do the job but IMO, if he become addicted to Japan which many of us have, he may be wanting to go wider. The quiver has started.
I still reckon a wide ski for Japan + a narrower ski for Oz. Install some Binding Freedom inserts ta da, one set of bindings.



Cheers

I can see your reasoning behind those skis, and would have agreed at the time they came out as the best for the job, although I really hated the Head Monster skis even though I sold plenty of them,

Back in the Head monster days very few skis over 80mm could hold a decent edge on ice at any sort of speed, technology appears to have sorted that out for now, I do like the Ninthwards and most Volkl skis, the Mantra has been as close I could get to a good all rounder but really not great at either deep powder or on piste early in the day in Australia, I haven't liked Rossignol skis since the days of the Viper series, really didn't think much of the very popular Bandits, but again sold plenty, so for me to find a ski that I liked so much and for that to be a Rossignol was quite a surprise, next years Sin 7 is going to be another winner in my opinion.

post #36 of 38
QK's and BF's are essiently the same. One has rolled threads, the other has cut threads. One has screw driver slots, the other doesn't. Both developed by the same bloke.
Nothing on your website re: quiver killer sales.
post #37 of 38
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Two sets of skis wouldn't be a problem with the one set of bindings. I ride NTN, and Rottefella have a binding plate so you can swap the bindings between different sets of skis.

 

The Soul 7 seem like a good option. I will be tossing up between only them, or a set of wider skis for a Japan and better Oz days, as well as a frontside/icy ski for early season Oz snow.

 

Still going to do a lot of reading and research on the topic!

post #38 of 38

My main quiver this year will be the E88 and the Soul7.  I ski alpine and telemark.  One of my friends has been messing around with plates and "quiver killers" for several years.  He was showing me his latest which is to install helicoils in the ski so that he can easily and quickly switch from alpine to telemark.  I might have to start doing that.  The Soul7 might be a good compromise ski for you.  I am thinking that the Cham 97 might be better.  Going the helicoil route would save you a bunch of money if you wind up getting more than one set of boards.  Decent used skis are not hard to find in a ski town.  Unmounted skis stack better and are easier to ship.

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