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Is There An Easy Entry Ski Boot??

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Are there any ski boots that are easy to get on? Looking for a halfway decent rear entry boot.:eek Maybe even a poor one if that's all there is.

This is for someone who's 79, has ankle and foot issues and has a difficult time getting into boots. Tried the three piece Nordicas, didn't work.

We did go to one place that had the Apex. That would work but it's 7-800$. Looking for something not so expensive. Probably would be used 10 days this year.

This seems to be a serious missing category in the industry. One wonders if the ski industry knows anything about who's actually skiing. I could sell 5 pairs of a decent easy to put on boot. If you can't get the boot on, you're not going to ski. Pretty simple. When all the salesman can offer is some sort of spray to make them easier to get on, it's a joke. We've tried the sprays.

 

Any ideas? Maybe a rear entry rental?

post #2 of 16

Apex?

 

http://apexskiboots.com/about

 

I hear they are easy to put on after shelling out $1,400 bucks hahaha..  Pretty difficult before that though..

 

But, I also heard some rear entry clones are out.  Look around.

post #3 of 16

Did you try "hike feature" boots like the Head Challenger or even the Tecnica Cochise series? This design allow the cuff to open back a bit allowing people with limited range get in the shell easier. I would also suggest a Hot Gear Bag, a warm shell is a lot more pliable and easier to get in. For seniors, I also suggest the buddy system for putting boots on. I'd love to see a boot like the Salomon SX to come back for these situation. 

post #4 of 16
I have new Challengers. So far, they are not easy to get on.
post #5 of 16

I found that one of the side benefits to getting Intuition liners a couple seasons ago was that the wrap-around style makes it easier to get into and out of my boots.  Does still require pulling open the liner and shell.

 

One reason I kept my rear-entry boots when I was skiing a few days every few years was that I didn't want to deal with 4-buckle boots.

post #6 of 16
I just bought a pair of Dalbello Boss boots that seem ridiculously easy to get into. Dalbello owns an unusual 3 buckle design.
post #7 of 16
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Here's the Challenger

 

 

http://youtu.be/_jkFeqo-TpA

 

Doesn't look all that easy and sib's comments confirm that.

 

Last would have to be fairly wide like 102-5mm.

Which Dalbello? Panterra?

post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 

What about used rear entry boots? What's a good one to look for?

Like this Soloman HTC 83. How does this rate on the turd scale?

 

 

Or this one. Equipe 93 size 345. (wtf? Soloman's own sizing? About a 10 no?)

Isn't this the one that Scott Schmidt skied on ?

 

 

Interesting post by Bud in the "Why Did Mid Entry Boots Fail?" Thread

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bud heishman View Post
 

I have the distinction of having used every evolution of the Salomon rear entry boots to the Integral model and beyond.  Salomon did have, without a doubt the best skiing rear entry boot on the market and protected what made them work with patents galore.  When down sized and a few small modifications were made they skied quite well.  While working for Salomon for a few years it became apparent to me that all the imitators marketed their rear entries, which really really sucked, as their comfort and convenience models and their two piece architectures as their performance models.  This made it difficult for Salomon to come into a shop or clinic and tout their rear entry as a true performance boot when the other six reps who were just in that shop are telling the kids on the floor otherwise.  The perception became, performance = 2 piece, comfort/sport = rear entry.  

 

I remember a National sales meeting we had in Aspen where we tested everyone else's rear entry models against ours.  We sat in the resturaunt at the top of Ajax mountain and tried on each model making initial fit evaluations then skiing down the mountain and evaluating the skiing performance.  I remember to this day the absolute worst skiing boot I have ever skied, the Nordica Syntech rear entry!  That thing won the "out of the box fit" evaluation but when I skied it the boot flexed rearward more than forward.  I could actually do telemark turns with the boots!  It didnt' flex forward worth beans and was like hitting a wall which instantly pushed you into the back seat.  Nordica sold a shit load of those boots though because they fit great in the shop.  I can only imagine how many skiers gave up the sport because of that boot?  You could pick them out of a crowd because they would be hovering in the back seat all the time.

 

I believe Salomon reached the performance limitations and the marketing limitations of the rear entry design and decided it was time to move on and we went from Orange boots to PINK boots with the intro of the Integral, a three piece design which had an even shorter life span.


Edited by Tog - 11/29/13 at 4:34pm
post #9 of 16
They still seem to have them as rentals. Seems like you might be able to buy a pair from a rental shop somehow.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

They still seem to have them as rentals. Seems like you might be able to buy a pair from a rental shop somehow.


Well there's the Alpina. Good lord the flex is 40!

Wonder if it's possible to stiffen them.

 

http://www.levelninesports.com/Alpina-2012-R4-Rear-Entry-Ski-Boots

 

Check out how wide they open though. Go to 1:10

 

http://youtu.be/CmWOnSC9Grg

post #11 of 16

The newer Tecnica models the tongue pulls up and out of the shell a tad since the very top instep plastic is softer. They call it "Quick instep". I've found them very easy to get on and off.

 

post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 

^^Looks good for a normal boot. Still too difficult.

 

Anyone familiar with the Soloman Symbio 440?

 

post #13 of 16

Head Cube3 12 in 90 flex?

post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 

Interesting! That looks like a decent prospect. Talked to one shop that had the Soloman Symbio for rental. May try that as well as the Full tilt.

post #15 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tog View Post

 

Doesn't look all that easy and sib's comments confirm that.

 

Last would have to be fairly wide like 102-5mm.

Which Dalbello? Panterra?

 

 

If you're asking me, the Boss.  I wear 4E in shoes -- the Dalbello last is 103mm.  No punching needed, which amazed me.  

post #16 of 16

Prowl the used ski equipment shops.  There is one a few miles from me.  What is your size?  Get some used Solomons and using the usual tricks make them fit.  Perfection is not necessary. 

 

In the book "The Athletic Skier" there are several photos of skiers wearing the Solomon rear entry boots.  Karen Percy and Pam Fletcher have black ones and Scott Schmidt has ones with yellow tops and black bottoms.  Perhaps the resident Solomon experts can ID them for us. 

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