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Bodes photos..... I wonder how fast a L3 PSIA ski instructor would be on a race track showing perfect form? Is there anyghing that is perfect?

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Not this...

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JF

 

If only I could get angles like this and worry about having my boots lift my edges :D

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Bodes photos..... I wonder how fast a L3 PSIA ski instructor would be on a race track showing perfect form? Is there anyghing that is perfect?
Some of us are being sarcastic.
I wonder if Bode was A-Framing when he bounced off the wall at the Hahnenkamm. Probably, but does it count if one surface is vertical and not snow?
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True. We know its a bunch of things that are in play here. Alignment sertainly being one of them. But what if you did an extensive alignment job for a skier but he still was A-framing?

Then you go to work on movement patterns. Show me an a-framer with proper Alignment and boot set up, and I'll show you a pelvis filling the direction of the skis and very likely a pelvis not level to the slope... Outside foot long and braced, CoM back and inside, and an abstem with some shoulder rotation to unwind for the next turn.
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Bodes photos..... I wonder how fast a L3 PSIA ski instructor would be on a race track showing perfect form? Is there anyghing that is perfect?

See Mikaela and Ted. They're about as close as one could hope.
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See Mikaela and Ted. They're about as close as one could hope.

 

Exactly. We should look at the photos and go: wooooow, look at that recovery!

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If only I could get angles like this and worry about having my boots lift my edges :D

 

That is actually not a very bad thing to wish for.

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I wonder of Bode bevels and sharpens his boot buckles???

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Most A-frames that I see are due to incorrect skiing, specifically opening up too wide too early and also shuffling the beginning of the turn/too much.

Shufflers did not figure out yet how to get the knees out naturally and over and cannot match the shins with the ankle movements once the inside boot leads a lot.

I believe a small number is due to poor alignment.

I am now on the very narrow part of the curve right now - again

Worse, I was taught shuffling as an easy way to learn to carve and have infected others with it. Now, I'm finding it is holding me back getting into higher edge angles. Sagittal separation seems to be very difficult to eliminate once it's become an ingrained habit.
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Worse, I was taught shuffling as an easy way to learn to carve and have infected others with it. Now, I'm finding it is holding me back getting into higher edge angles. Sagittal separation seems to be very difficult to eliminate once it's become an ingrained habit.

yeah - more bad effects than just angles. I am just going through this change. Started at beginning of Dec and my skiing, which I was just getting happy about, has sucked badly for 5 days now, it takes many mental models and many cues and a lot of hard work to do correctly but I think I am seeing some light at the end of that tunnel - I am told my skiing has changed, but I'm afraid to see myself on tape for now :)

 

edit - but you have it right: shuffling is the easy way to carve, but not the efficient way to carve... you are effectively writing off the control.


Edited by razie - 12/9/13 at 12:40pm
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I wonder of Bode bevels and sharpens his boot buckles???

 

To add fuel to the fire, what tune tools would be used, what angles would be cut and would they vary from buckle to buckle?

 

:duck:

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To add fuel to the fire, what tune tools would be used, what angles would be cut and would they vary from buckle to buckle?

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Differentially tuned boot buckles?

Seems legit.
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