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Poll Results: Fischer Motive 86: a ski that might fill a big slot in your quiver?

Poll expired: Dec 3, 2013 This is a multiple choice poll
  • 83% of voters (5)
    Yes, good blend of race-like grip, liveliness, without being too burly.
  • 0% of voters (0)
    No, too much or too little ski for me
  • 0% of voters (0)
    No, not the right brand image
  • 16% of voters (1)
    Fischer: I thought it was Fisher, and they made 29er mountain bikes?
6 Total Votes  
post #31 of 42

Wait for the 2015 Motive 86.  I have skied all three iterations of this ski (own the 2013 model in both 175 and 182).  They are all very good.  But the 2015 version has a tweaked core construction called Air Tec Ti, it is a little lighter in weight, but more significantly, it adds more life and pop to the ski.  The newest Motive 86 kind of reminds me of a wider Progressor 900 (75mm waisted, carver, soft race model) on harder/groomed snow, but still has the subtle tip rocker and overall flex to work off-piste as well. 

 

One of our ski testers kind of agreed w/ Philpug on the original version (2013), that the ski was nice but not great.  But, he absolutely loves the newest (2015) version.   I agree and will be selling my 2013 versions and updating for next season as well.  But, I may go with the Motive 95 Ti to fill that slot in my quiver next year.  Decisions....

post #32 of 42
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Originally Posted by coolhand View Post
 

Wait for the 2015 Motive 86.  I have skied all three iterations of this ski (own the 2013 model in both 175 and 182).  They are all very good.  But the 2015 version has a tweaked core construction called Air Tec Ti, it is a little lighter in weight, but more significantly, it adds more life and pop to the ski.  The newest Motive 86 kind of reminds me of a wider Progressor 900 (75mm waisted, carver, soft race model) on harder/groomed snow, but still has the subtle tip rocker and overall flex to work off-piste as well. 

 

One of our ski testers kind of agreed w/ Philpug on the original version (2013), that the ski was nice but not great.  But, he absolutely loves the newest (2015) version.   I agree and will be selling my 2013 versions and updating for next season as well.  But, I may go with the Motive 95 Ti to fill that slot in my quiver next year.  Decisions....

 

Thanks for the feedback, coolhand.  Having both, what are your thoughts on the 175 vs 182?

post #33 of 42
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Originally Posted by Talking Monkey View Post
 

 

Thanks for the feedback, coolhand.  Having both, what are your thoughts on the 175 vs 182?


I skied both the 175 and 182 (2015) a couple of weeks ago.  I really liked this ski (and the 95) and I agree with @dawgcatching, @coolhand and others that Fischer has a winner in the Motives - whether they sell, whether Start Haus decides to buy, are somewhat orthogonal to the underlying question. 

 

At your size, I'd say go with the 182, especially given the length of the skis you own.  I am 5'11, 185 and I'd buy the 182 (and I typically prefer to ski next to largest slot in a given size run and keep my ego out of it). 

 

I found the 175 to be super quick, and nimble - almost a fall line bumper.  It was fun and reasonably stable on the groomers.  But in junky snow it gave up a little stability and felt small.  In general, the 175 felt like a playful, small, quick ski - to me, a smoother, more damp, more refined version of Scott the Ski (175).

 

The 182 feels and skis a bit bigger, but the character doesn't change that much.  It was still super quick, but the added ski made it less easy to just toss around.  On snow, the 182 felt and skied about the same length as 180 Bonafide or Brahma, or a 178 MX 88.  I felt like I could ski the 182 longer, more GS'ie, more aggressive lines, but if I wanted to, I could shut it down pretty easily and snap some short, quick turns.  And it was still really easy to manage in the bumps at that length.  At 182, it was really solid and smooth, but it still had great pop.  The fact that I liked the biggest size makes me wonder whether there might be a size limit on these for a really big dude, but for most dudes and dudettes, there is a lot to like here.

post #34 of 42
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
 

 

I'm still waiting to hear when other people demo the Motive 95 (or 94 or whatever it is). I thought that ski was a best in show.

!!!!!

 

 

I didn't know this existed! The Rev 98 was on my short list, but I prefer the feel of the Motive line overall...however I already have the RC4 and didn't want to get something quite so similar (IMO) as a western daily driver. I was specifically thinking to myself that Fischer should make a wider Motive, and I would probably buy it immediately. Exciting!! Thanks!


Edited by LiveJazz - 3/24/14 at 3:33pm
post #35 of 42

Imagine if Fischer could figure out the simple things....like marketing.

post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by LewyM View Post
 


I skied both the 175 and 182 (2015) a couple of weeks ago.  I really liked this ski (and the 95) and I agree with @dawgcatching, @coolhand and others that Fischer has a winner in the Motives - whether they sell, whether Start Haus decides to buy, are somewhat orthogonal to the underlying question. 

 

At your size, I'd say go with the 182, especially given the length of the skis you own.  I am 5'11, 185 and I'd buy the 182 (and I typically prefer to ski next to largest slot in a given size run and keep my ego out of it). 

 

I found the 175 to be super quick, and nimble - almost a fall line bumper.  It was fun and reasonably stable on the groomers.  But in junky snow it gave up a little stability and felt small.  In general, the 175 felt like a playful, small, quick ski - to me, a smoother, more damp, more refined version of Scott the Ski (175).

 

The 182 feels and skis a bit bigger, but the character doesn't change that much.  It was still super quick, but the added ski made it less easy to just toss around.  On snow, the 182 felt and skied about the same length as 180 Bonafide or Brahma, or a 178 MX 88.  I felt like I could ski the 182 longer, more GS'ie, more aggressive lines, but if I wanted to, I could shut it down pretty easily and snap some short, quick turns.  And it was still really easy to manage in the bumps at that length.  At 182, it was really solid and smooth, but it still had great pop.  The fact that I liked the biggest size makes me wonder whether there might be a size limit on these for a really big dude, but for most dudes and dudettes, there is a lot to like here.

 

Thanks LewyM.  This was helpful.

post #37 of 42
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post
 

Imagine if Fischer could figure out the simple things....like marketing.

 

I agree they could do a better job getting the word out about their skis, but on the other hand I applaud Fischer for staying true to its design philosophy with the Motives despite the growing popularity of skis like Rossi S7. The looser style that those skis help with is valid and can be a ton of fun...but those who like a good carve, like some rebound, and appreciate a lively ride generally like the Motive...a lot. Unfortunately, that is a shrinking population, and Blizzard has frankly done a much better job of attracting these people to their skis. 

 

Then again, it feels like Blizzard really came out of nowhere over the past few years, so maybe Fischer can do the same. 

post #38 of 42
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Originally Posted by Talking Monkey View Post
 

 

Thanks for the feedback, coolhand.  Having both, what are your thoughts on the 175 vs 182?

I have both for different situations. I am a big guy (6'1" and 230#), but our closest hill is pretty small and tight, I am skiing a lot of tree lines and tighter bumps there, so the 175cm gets the nod.  When I get to a bigger mountain with more room, I prefer the 182cm for a touch more stability, it is still nimble enough for chutes and bumps.  If I had to pick one, I would pick the 182cm.

post #39 of 42
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Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
 

 

I agree they could do a better job getting the word out about their skis, but on the other hand I applaud Fischer for staying true to its design philosophy with the Motives despite the growing popularity of skis like Rossi S7. The looser style that those skis help with is valid and can be a ton of fun...but those who like a good carve, like some rebound, and appreciate a lively ride generally like the Motive...a lot. Unfortunately, that is a shrinking population, and Blizzard has frankly done a much better job of attracting these people to their skis. 

 

Then again, it feels like Blizzard really came out of nowhere over the past few years, so maybe Fischer can do the same. 


It's crazy.  The whole market is crazy.  I've got an 8 year old pair of Salomon Scream 10 Pilots that are the best skis I have ever owned and I did a demo day at Alpental last year and went back and forth between my 8 year old Pilot's and the new stuff - Atomics, Salomon, Fischers, K2.  And they all SUCKED compared to my Pilots.  Rockers suck, the washed out no-action feel on boards with rocker is insane. 

 

But the Motives.  That ski held up and I had to say was even with the Pilots or a bit better (as I'd expect from a newer ski).  I'm going to try and get out on some more demo pairs this year, but I am very UN-impressed with the ski industry - it's all marketing and no meat.

post #40 of 42
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Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
 


....the washed out no-action feel on boards with rocker is insane. 

 

Can I get a hallelujah?

post #41 of 42

Hey Gonzo,those skis that you said sucked, were they fatties that you coudn't get to hook -up? The manufacturer's you listed make some pretty good frontside ski's.......and soft snow fatties.

post #42 of 42


would you say that the Kastle fx84 is a more memorable ski in this category?  From your posts, you seem like you enjoy your Kastle's!   I have been reading a ton of info about the x84 and 94 and would love to demo but don't know if and when i will be able to.  I just don't know if i can drop that much cheddar on something that i have not tried, yet i feel like i won't be disappointed either.

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