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Intuition Luxury Liner sizing

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

I have some Dalbello boots a few seasons old with maybe 200 days on them so liners packed out, shell size is 26.5, someone on ebay has Intuition Luxury liner for $100 plus shipping but they are size 26.

 

I know that boot shells are the same size for 26 & 26.5 but my question is are 26.5 size lines slightly bigger, ie will I find the 26's too small ?

 

Help appreciated

 

Rob

post #2 of 17

Nope, that's exactly the size you want.  Remember there is some "give" in the liners if/when you bake them as well.  You should be fine.

post #3 of 17

Here is my recent experience with Intuition's Luxury liner... hopefully this will help you.

 

I picked up both the Luxury and Dreamliner recently as part of the group buy on Teton Gravity.  My foot measures right about 26cm and I have 25.5 Tecnica Cochise boots.  In the shell fit... I have about 1.2cm behind my heal.  For situations like mine (on the half size) Intuition recommends bumping up to the next mondo size... which in my case is 26.  Now they normally recommend a medium volume (MV) liner for anything less than 1.5cm shell fit... but I wanted something a little tighter and ordered a HV.  

 

The overall fit on my foot is just about right (before baking)... but around my calf there is too much room.  I have a similar feel around my foot with the 25 Dreamliner's (MV) I also ordered... but they fit better around my calf... so I'm going with those.  With the Dreamliner's... they recommend rounding down if you are on the half size.

 

Hope this helps!!

 

Rich

post #4 of 17

As Mase said, sizing up is often recommended. I have size 27 Tecnica Dragon 120's (wide volume alpine boot) with a good shell fit and just got sz 28 Luxury's fix at my trusted boot shop. Haven't had a chance to ski them yet but the feel in the shop vs. my packed out (~120 days) stock liners is night and day.

post #5 of 17

Gramboh...

 

I'm guessing you didn't have any fit issues around your calf?  With the Luxury's in my boot... I can't get a snug fit around the calf without really wrenching on the top two buckles... to the point where it particially distorts the shell.  I like the fit elsewise... especially the stiffer flex of the Luxury over the Dreamliner.

post #6 of 17

The luxury Liner comes in high, medium, and low volume models.  Do you know which these are and what volume you want?

 

My experience is that Intuition makes great products, but as with any footwear buying them without trying them on is a crap shoot.  I bought a pair of Luxury Liners via the mail without trying them on and after many visits to my bootfitter we realized that this model would never work for my feet and my boots.  I then visited Intuition's showroom, tried on a half dozen or so models and sizes and found the right combination for my feet and my boots.  Intuition let me swap them out at no cost - their service is really tops.

 

For me, the Dreamliner in a medium volume was the ticket.  I had been using the Luxury Liner in a low volume, but the Luxury liner has a 6mm foot bed and that was just too thick for my situation.  The slimmer 3mm foot bed in the Dreamliner along with a thicker liner elsewhere redistributed the padding in a way that worked for me.

 

I have no idea what will work with your feet and your boots, but I'd highly recommend trying them on first.  Yeah it's another $100 to pay retail, but worth it to have boots that fit.

post #7 of 17
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Gramboh...

 

I'm guessing you didn't have any fit issues around your calf?  With the Luxury's in my boot... I can't get a snug fit around the calf without really wrenching on the top two buckles... to the point where it particially distorts the shell.  I like the fit elsewise... especially the stiffer flex of the Luxury over the Dreamliner.

 

I'll check when volume they are when I get home tonight but I think they are medium volume. I have wide, relatively flat feet and thick calves which taper toward the bottom (no cankles). My bootfitter has a similar lower leg profile, and mentioned that he can add some material to the Luxury liner to increase the contact along the outside of my lower shin. He said this will reduce the two pressure points which are #1) outside ankle bone (sorry my anatomy verbage is horrible) #2) where the top buckle/booster cinch down. 

 

He wants me to ski them 4-5 times before going that route, but as I bought the boots and liners there I get unlimited boot work for free. I'll post in this thread if I go that route.

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks all - this confirms that I should get them fitted, Skiwest here I come

 

Rob

post #9 of 17

Bumping this. Am contemplating the same buy, 26.5 boot, 12-15 mm shell fit, have talked with Intuition, wide forefeet and narrow ankles, they recommend a 27 Dreamliner LV or a 28 Luxury LV. The first makes sense, but I'm concerned it'll be too soft. The second makes sense from the flex and thickness, but the size rec has me confused. Anyone here had Intuition say 2 sizes up? I'm thinking they assume the liner will be a very tight fit in the shell, so heating will force the foam inward. Perhaps a good thing. 

 

FWIW, I've skied a Power Wrap for some time, 27, barely gives my toes enough room even after double toe caps. So from that perspective the 28 makes sense, but I'm concerned about folding. 

 

If I get the Luxury, which I'm leaning toward, it would be in a MV, incidentally, to allow for my ankles. But will the sole thickness still be 6 mm, or jump to a higher number? 

 

Any ideas or additional experiences appreciated. 

post #10 of 17
I have a 27 MV Pro Tongue. Will be selling cheap Used maybe 15 days. Only molded once.
If your interested in experimenting. I stopped my experiment and the liner was over $200.
post #11 of 17
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me confused. Anyone here had Intuition say 2 sizes up? 

 

I've got 70 days on a 27 powerwrap in a 25 shell, yes.    

post #12 of 17
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...they recommend a 27 Dreamliner LV or a 28 Luxury LV. The first makes sense, but I'm concerned it'll be too soft...

 

I've got the Dreamliner and I would not use "soft" to describe it.

 

It's a stiffer liner than the liner that came with my Doberman Pro 130s, which are not exactly known for being soft boots.

 

Again, I'd reiterate that it's best to actually try them on. It's really hard to see what they feel like over teh intertubes.

post #13 of 17

Helpful, guys. Cant, did you have any issues with creases or folds? Did you have it oven baked and inserted into the shell, or do it yourself, in shell, with rice etc.? Walt, good data point. Maybe I'm misjudging from Intuition's chart. They have the Dreamliner as far below the Power Wrap in stiffness (high vs low), and I've found the ID PW to be moderately stiff, not crazy. But sounds like the ID version may be throwing me off. I can't try them on because I'm ordering them with a coupon from Intuition; my shop only carries Power Wraps, everything else is special order. 

post #14 of 17
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 Cant, did you have any issues with creases or folds? 

 

One of them had a wrinkle so it took a 2nd bake to get that out, wasn't looking at it so not sure where exactly it was, medial ankle area abouts.    I think @Noodler has also done this - pretty sure I got the larger liner -> more material -> smaller or fewer internal bubbles/vacuoles  -> longer lasting fit idea from him. 

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 Did you have it oven baked and inserted into the shell, or do it yourself, in shell, with rice etc.?

 

Oven baked with 2 guys yanking material out of the shell as fast as they could grab and hold. 

post #15 of 17
Check out my long term reviews of the Pro Tongue, Dream Liner HV, and soon to come Luxury HV on Yellow Gentian Ski Reviews....tester from Vail, Colorado.
post #16 of 17
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If I get the Luxury, which I'm leaning toward, it would be in a MV, incidentally, to allow for my ankles. But will the sole thickness still be 6 mm, or jump to a higher number? 

 

The sole is 9mm thick, which is their standard.  I got a Power Wrap Pro liner, 2mm sole, for my Full Tilts and it made a huge difference in toe box.  The 9mm sole makes it pretty difficult to use a footbed.

 

You might want to consider a DFP liner.  We got a sample in and it is really well made.  Made by Intuition to DFP's specs and I think it has a 2mm sole.  https://www.dfpsole.com/products-technology-for-feet/dfp-boot-liners 

post #17 of 17


I also just got the pro wrap. It has a neoprene toe box so it isn't as bulky in that area. Works great.

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