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Does ski wax wear off during summer storage?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Hello all,

 

First, I'd like to say I'm new to EpicSki, so forgive me if this post is in the wrong place.

 

I ended last season by bringing my (then) new skis into the shop for a hot wax. I didn't tell the shop guy to leave all the wax on, so I'm assuming he scraped and brushed. After this, I didn't ski at all. I stored my skis in my office, leaned against the wall (base out). Now that the season's about to start for me, I'm looking at my skis again and I've noticed white patches near the tip where the ski is the widest. This applies to both of my skis, though one has a significantly more pronounced patch. I distinctly remember the base being completely black at the end of last season.

 

So, does wax wear off over the summer? Should I apply a thicker coat at the end of a season?

 

Thanks for your comments and suggestions!

post #2 of 23
Mine are unscraped and I noticed the same thing, probably oxidation of some sort.

I wouldn't worry about it either way, just go skiing with them.
post #3 of 23
It sounds like they have gone past their sell by date and have succumbed to the ptex erosion virus. This means they need to be properly disposed of under supervision to :Davoid the virus spreading . This can be a costly process, fees etc, but I will send you a shipping label and take care of it for you...biggrin.gif
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post #4 of 23
This is why you do your own tuning. So you have your own wire brush to remove all that wax that's come out of the skis. Chances are, a light scratch with your fingernail leaves a mark. Nothing to worry about if so. Brush them, wax/scrape/brush and go.
post #5 of 23
This isn't an issue, unless you end up sending them to ScotsSkier ; )

Shops are notorious for not getting all the wax off, especially at the tip. You can ski them and let snow friction do the work or brush them out. Keep in mind when Sibhusky said to use a wire brush, she didn't mean the same one you brush old paint chips off the side of the house with.

I'm guessing you don't have tuning tools so I would just ski them. Brushing until the wax is gone is the best way to handle it but letting friction do the job isn't bad since it is at the tip, and probably where the machine they use doesn't connect with well. The snow isn't going to either for the same reason the machine doesn't.

Have fun,

Ken
post #6 of 23
Thanks for clarifying that. Didn't think.
post #7 of 23

Like mentioned above they are fine to ski like that, but if it bothers you just take a scotch brite pad and buff the whitish colored sections smooth. 

 

post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your comments. I was worried that maybe the base dried out or something.

post #9 of 23
Where i live there are several 100 degree summer days, I place a coat of soft wax on all my skis at seasons end and store them in my detached garage. My garage acts like a hot box and what i have noticed is the wax is has melted away in some place if i didn't coat them heavy enuf. If i wax and scrape i will aways get dry areas. To me this makes sense because car wax melts off of cars faster during the summer then winter.
post #10 of 23
Mine are stored in our very dry basement. No white on the older skis. Some on the newer powder skis for some reason. Looked at how much skiing was on each after last waxing. Seems to be equivalent. Might be something to do with the type of wax on each. Will have to root through trash to find those notes.

Yeah, I'm nuts. 😀
post #11 of 23

Sibhusky,

 

Well if you're nuts, you're in good company.  I've been writing everything I'm doing to all the skis mostly so I don't loose track.  Sometimes I don't get back to them for a week or two and I know I won't remember how many cycles of what I've done to them.  So I decided to keep a log book; spreadsheet actually.  Should be fun. 

 

Ken

post #12 of 23

We had one pair do this, I just waxed them today. They are my daughter's skis, and a friend waxed them last spring, and I don't know what he used. Now I'm kind of curious, though, because the other skis didn't.

post #13 of 23
Ray,
Yup. I'll always remember being seen by the VA when I first retired and they denied everything I applied for but asked if I wanted to work on my OCD. Apparantly straightening and aligning the chairs in the waiting room isn't normal. Who knew? biggrin.gif

Ken
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post

Ray,
Yup. I'll always remember being seen by the VA when I first retired and they denied everything I applied for but asked if I wanted to work on my OCD. Apparantly straightening and aligning the chairs in the waiting room isn't normal. Who knew? biggrin.gif

Ken

ROFLMAO! I hear you ken, Mrs SS is a bit the same way so you can imagine how crazy I drive her when I have morphed into the classic consultant right brain/ left brain mode
post #15 of 23

I don't know if the wax will wear off, but I do know that people generally put on 'storage wax' at the end of ski season, or any time they won't be using a pair for a prolonged period. If I recall correctly, storage wax is basically just warm wax (wax meant for warm weather) but it is not scraped/brushed (until the next ski season when you're ready to use them again). Just leave the thick coat on all summer. Come the start of the next ski season, you should be fine just scraping/brushing and not having to apply new wax, unless the ski season starts off really cold in which case you'd probably want to put on cold wax.

 

I've never waxed skis myself, but my dad waxes all of my family's skis and built his own waxing bench, he's passed on some info to me, so while I can't guarantee everything I said is entirely accurate, I believe it is fairly accurate.

post #16 of 23
Sh4d0w,

What you wrote is accurate but the OP didn't put storage wax. The effect of the shop not brushing the wax off from the tip completely is the same though.

Ken
post #17 of 23

I just checked all my skis this morning when I saw this post. Sure enough, not only had the wax come off, but the skis where just puddles of discolored liquid on the floor. I have no idea what to do now. 

 

 

(in the spirit of TGR)

post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by SoloBlizzard View Post
 

Hello all,

 

First, I'd like to say I'm new to EpicSki, so forgive me if this post is in the wrong place.

 

I ended last season by bringing my (then) new skis into the shop for a hot wax. I didn't tell the shop guy to leave all the wax on, so I'm assuming he scraped and brushed. After this, I didn't ski at all. I stored my skis in my office, leaned against the wall (base out). Now that the season's about to start for me, I'm looking at my skis again and I've noticed white patches near the tip where the ski is the widest. This applies to both of my skis, though one has a significantly more pronounced patch. I distinctly remember the base being completely black at the end of last season.

 

So, does wax wear off over the summer? Should I apply a thicker coat at the end of a season?

 

Thanks for your comments and suggestions!


It doesn't wear off.  It does dry out.  Always apply a storage wax.  Best to scrape & brush and reapply at least a few times during the off season.  As mentioned above the old skis in the attic is an excellent thing to do.

post #19 of 23

I think what isn't clear here is whether the white spots are spots of excess wax, or spots where the existing wax in the base has dried out. If it is a white buildup on the base, then its excess wax. If it is white areas that look like they're dried out, its the latter.

 

Either way, it doesn't matter. If the ski didn't have a layer of storage wax on it over the summer, it needs to be re-waxed to start the season. A fresh hot wax and scrape will solve both problems. In future, suggestion for the OP is to not get a wax and scrape at the end of the season. Have the shop apply wax, but don't scrape. Even better, do it yourself. You can wax skis with a $5 walmart iron and a $5 plexi scraper, and whatever wax you'd like to use.

post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post
 

I just checked all my skis this morning when I saw this post. Sure enough, not only had the wax come off, but the skis where just puddles of discolored liquid on the floor. I have no idea what to do now. 

 

 

It doesn't matter.     #9 has already done the scans to deal with your problem.   As soon as #12 has finished the calculations, that entire timeline will collapse.

post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post
 

I think what isn't clear here is whether the white spots are spots of excess wax, or spots where the existing wax in the base has dried out. If it is a white buildup on the base, then its excess wax. If it is white areas that look like they're dried out, its the latter.

 

Or it's wax with a significantly different TCOE from the skis' material  that has separated from the bases, and the random spots where it has done so look white because everything that's transparent, random and small looks white.

post #22 of 23

Scrape it off -- just let it wear off with the first few runs -- scrape it off and re-apply the appropriate wax for early season temps.  I've done one of the above for most of the last 35 seasons - skis always seem to work.

post #23 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoloBlizzard View Post
 

Hello all,

 

First, I'd like to say I'm new to EpicSki, so forgive me if this post is in the wrong place.

 

I ended last season by bringing my (then) new skis into the shop for a hot wax. I didn't tell the shop guy to leave all the wax on, so I'm assuming he scraped and brushed. After this, I didn't ski at all. I stored my skis in my office, leaned against the wall (base out). Now that the season's about to start for me, I'm looking at my skis again and I've noticed white patches near the tip where the ski is the widest. This applies to both of my skis, though one has a significantly more pronounced patch. I distinctly remember the base being completely black at the end of last season.

 

So, does wax wear off over the summer? Should I apply a thicker coat at the end of a season?

 

Thanks for your comments and suggestions!

I did notice something similar on one of my boards (the older  board)... "patches" of white on the base when I pulled my boards out of storage (and in the spring I put a layer of warm wax without scraping)...

 

no big deal... scraped, then tuned up my boards for the upcoming season (though right now, it will be  late start due to a sprained ankle).

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