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The Other Minefield Boots...".Can you get Great Fitting Boots Off The Shelf?"

post #1 of 14
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Hey guys I have to admit I was one of those guys that thought a skiers main priority in getting gear was Skis but how wrong I was, as we all should know that Boots are much more important...'Great Fitting Boots' to be precise...correct? So I ask this question if you are unable to get to a ski-boot fitter can you really give your measurements to  a boot-fitter with all the necessary information for them to make an informed choice on your behalf....the answer is apparently Yes and No check out this response I have....

 

~~Thank you for your email. The answer to your question is yes and no, yes it is possible for me to pick the best boot for your foot shape by you giving me some information (see questions below) but no it’s not possible to complete a custom boot fit without your foot. What I would suggest is you give me the information below and I can then give you the best suggestions regarding correct boots, socks, footbeds and anything else that may be needed and we can send them to you with a guide of how to fit and go from there, if not correct you can always send back.

 

~~Information we would need to find some boots that would fit you foot shape and ability would be the following: 

Normal shoe size (please state UK or USA) Length of foot weighted and un-weighted in CM Width of foot weighted and un-weighted in MM

Fore foot profile: narrow, medium, wide

Heel profile: narrow, medium, wide Instep profile : low, medium, high (this is the height from the ground to top off your foot where your arch is)

Arch profile: low, medium, high Ability Any previous problems in ski boot Any injuries

 

So your thoughts, would you pursue this avenue? They have an excellent reputation regarding boot-fitting. Thanks.

 

Daza.

post #2 of 14
Won't you ever be at a ski area? Do they have no boot fitters anywhere in New Zealand?
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Won't you ever be at a ski area?


Yeah of course, I was just trying to get my gear sorted before I get up there to avoid the waiting for boots to be custom fitted, I live about 5 and a half hours drive away, and up the Mountain there is very limited shops, in fact just one. I have been invited to come in and discuss my boot options with him, and he has been recommended as a boot fitter. he is the place I will be getting my skis to demo. The shop isn't very big and it is a rental shop not a retail shop but does sell gear, I guess I should follow through and give him the benefit of the doubt and if I don't have any luck there then I could try somewhere else? He is a genuine good guy who won't rip me off and only wants me to be fitted with the right gear for me.

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

HaHa the best Boot-Fitters are here in NZ :) They are just so far away.....:(

post #5 of 14
Bring your old boots. Make sure you have at least one set of skis that is still set to your old boots and then work on the fitting of the new boots over your vacation. Since you really have to ski in them for a few days to know if the fit is right, it's better to do it at the resort.
post #6 of 14

Daza, I bought my boots from a renowned boot fitter based near Stowe, VT, 5-6 hours from where I live.  Of course I happened to be skiing there at the time.  My feet are pretty average and he picked 2 different boots for me to try.  I walked out the door with no more customization than purchasing a footbed and a much lighter wallet.  As I have said before and will say again, it all depends on your feet.  Having said that I think it can help to go to a good fitter who will know what will fit you and what won't.

post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by crank View Post
 

Daza, I bought my boots from a renowned boot fitter based near Stowe, VT, 5-6 hours from where I live.  Of course I happened to be skiing there at the time.  My feet are pretty average and he picked 2 different boots for me to try.  I walked out the door with no more customization than purchasing a footbed and a much lighter wallet.  As I have said before and will say again, it all depends on your feet.  Having said that I think it can help to go to a good fitter who will know what will fit you and what won't.

The purchasing a "footbed" was that a custom job or a off the shelf fit? I have heard it is possible to getting all that without customising? True?

post #8 of 14
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I think I will leave it till I see this guy, as he won't put me wrong, he is a member of the NZ forum, which is sadly currently down due to Spam. It won't be back online till early next year. Cheers for your advice

post #9 of 14

It was an off the shelf footbed.  I think you are making the right decision.

post #10 of 14
Customized insoles are often available as part of the buying process, depending on how normal your foot is. Pretty much everything depends on how normal you are. :-D
post #11 of 14

If the question is "Can you get great fitting boots off the shelf" then the answer is yes, for some people. My boot fitter picked out a pair of boots for me that are ridiculously great fitting and comfortable out of the box. That is not to say I might not need to go back in and get some bits fitted here or there. But the quality and fit of boots have come a LONG way in the words of my very experienced boot fitter. He said they have simply listened to the feedback of boot-fitters over the years and iterated designs until they are where they are now.

post #12 of 14

definitive answer:

 

yes as long as your foot fits the boot perfectly......

post #13 of 14
I think the problem is unless you deal with feet all the time or have been to a podiatrist, you don't necessarily know the answers to those questions and where you fall in the scale of things since they didn't ask for numerical answers other than length.  For example you may think you have low arches but really you have high arches, since the only pair of feet you deal with are your own.  You may think you have wide feet, but exactly what is the mm measurement?
 
The questions are a good start as the guy said but it is just a start: 
He also didn't ask you about your ski ability; where you ski, and what you hope to accomplish.
There are some questions I'd expect but perhaps they know it's too hard for the customer to answer,
About pronation/supination and stance which I suppose some boots may naturally be better for versus others, 
 
But, this is also the boot fitting process, so I wouldn't expect him to go into more details and analysis without hearing back and the expectation of you making a purchase.
 
As far as the boots themselves, if you have generic foot that matches the mold congrats.  However, you still need to watch out if the boots are snug and comfortable just because they have thicker liner that ends up packing out.
 
For footbed/insole, there are other threads you can search with on that.  
There are ones that are trim to fit (Superfeet).  and/or semi-customable
There are ones that are thermo-moldable (sole) that you throw in the oven and then stand on and it will molds to your foot.    I've used Sole before and they work well.
These DIY off-the-shelf options will be much cheaper than a full-custom solution, and may work great for you.  It also helps if the insole size matches your size off the shelf, and requires little trimming.  For this reason I went with Sole that are sized every whole US size versus 1.5 or 2sizes.
Again, depends if you have foot problems to begin with, and how close you were to the default foot that the insole was designed for.  
If you have pretty normal feet, you can definitely get most of the benefit of custom footbeds with a DIY off-the-shelf option and save some money.

Edited by raytseng - 11/22/13 at 1:05pm
post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 

Well I may not be normal but I think my feet are all normal... They did ask about ability, I just left that bit out as that was an easy for me to answer HaHa. I hope I can fit off the shelf boots and insoles, fingers crossed. I think you are spot on with the what I think is a low arch may be actually high what do I know. I guess that's why it is always best to be fitted in person, they are the experts, and this guy from the NZ forum will definitely have my best interests invested so I should go with him for that reason alone, plus the fact he has had many recommendations. Sometimes I think the skiing is the easy bit, and the sorting out gear is the head spin. Cheers.

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