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Burke Mountain back in the 80's

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Has anyone skied Burke back in the 80's? I learned to ski at this mountain and for the life of me can't remember the trail that I used to spend most of my time on, at least in the beginning. To the skier's right from atop the chair, it was a windy trail, possibly called Toll Road? Whatever it was no longer exists on the present day trail map. Just want to know for nostalgia sake.

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Has anyone skied Burke back in the 80's? I learned to ski at this mountain and for the life of me can't remember the trail that I used to spend most of my time on, at least in the beginning. To the skier's right from atop the chair, it was a windy trail, possibly called Toll Road? Whatever it was no longer exists on the present day trail map. Just want to know for nostalgia sake.

 

Sure sounds like Powderhorn (or maybe East Bowl if it was the one WAY around). I haven't skied there SINCE the '80s, unfortunately, but there is a whole web of windy trails skier right on that mountain. Both of the ones I mention are still on the map. Why do you think the trail you're thinking of is NOT on the map?

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You know East Bowl does sound familiar…but I really remember there being a lot more switchback-type turns and I didn't think it was a black diamond. As a kid maybe I wasn't paying attention to this, but I don't think I was ever that good though, especially given early 80's ski technology. Could they have regraded this trail somehow? I remember totally freaking out and having to be carried down Doug's Drop by my brother's friend, so skiing a diamond at that age doesn't seem right...

 

Thanks for answering!

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Pretty sure East Bowl used to be marked as a blue square. No idea whether the trail has actually changed. Doubtful. Areas have been known to change the rating of a trail for political / marketing reasons, and/or to align with changing skier expectations. (Maybe those are the same thing.) In this case, my suspicion is that the diamond was assigned because the trail is narrow. In the 70s, LOTS of New England trails were that narrow. Now, when the majority of skiers on the hill have spent their whole lives skiing nothing but wide fall-line groomers at places like Sunday River, Loon, Okemo, Stratton, Bretton Woods, etc., they probably freak out when they get on a natural snow trail that's only three ski-lengths wide and complain to management that it should be marked as an expert trail.

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Mystery solved, I think it was East Bowl. Maybe I wasn't as bad on my way-too-long-and-skinny sticks as I remembered :cool Thanks!

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I have to add that the narrow part was for sure true. I remember making my first run of the season and bombing down it like a dumb kid is prone to do and encountered a lip on the inside corner of the turn I had to make. Couldn't avoid going airborne and not landing in time to complete the left turn, went tumbling down the side of the trail. Was definitely a drop off but just into woods. I stopped when I smacked into a birch tree with my back. Never told my parents...

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Here's the trail map from 1980 if that helps:

 

http://skimap.org/data/208/7/1210036081.jpg

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Here's the trail map from 1980 if that helps:

 

http://skimap.org/data/208/7/1210036081.jpg

 

Cool. You know, I think I have a paper copy of that actual map somewhere. :)  Anyway, it does prove that East Bowl used to be marked blue. Thanks, nathanvg.

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Actually, you are correct with you thinking it was Toll Road. It has since been renamed "Deer Run" and reclassified as a Blue square. They reclassified it when they expanded Big Dipper by extending it up to the top of the mountain (Upper Dipper). Upper Dipper/Big Dipper has 4 intersections with Deer Run (Toll Road). All of these intersections with a high speed trail and the narrow/switchback flow of the trail led to the reclassification.

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You can see the extension of the "Dippers" trail and the reclassification of Toll Road between the 1996 and 2007 trail maps.

 

http://skimap.org/SkiAreas/view/208

 

And the reclassification of East Bowl (not really switchbacked) from Blue to Black was within the last two years. They no longer groom it (which I love Thumbs Up).

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Thanks everyone for indulging me and now I can see it was Toll Road, that I probably was the weak skier that I thought I was, and that I had no business bombing down Toll Road for the first run of my season because as you can see about half way down the trail there is a sharp narrow left that one has to take. Not wise with a buildup of snow on the inside of the turn that sent me flying over the edge. If I skied it sanely for the first time, undoubtedly this would not have happened. But twelve-year-olds are not known for logic.

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My dorky self back in 1982 at Burke. Anyone else have fun old pics to share?

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