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post #91 of 116

I have no info at all other than what I glean on the internet. I suspect they've settled with gag orders.

I doubt his operating craft has been affected at all. May even be better.

Doctors are just people and the businesses have similar issues as others.

Check out this article on a big law firm self destructing. It's high school/middle school only with lots of money.

 

Annals of Law

The Collapse

How a top legal firm destroyed itself.

by James B. Stewart October 14, 2013

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/10/14/131014fa_fact_stewart

post #92 of 116
Oh, thanks, link me to an article I can't read. :-P
post #93 of 116

Sorry, forgot about that.

Here, someone scanned it into scribd.:

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/174876217/Annals-of-Law-The-Collapse-Dewey-LeBoeuf

post #94 of 116
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
 

 it's just a bunch of gum flapping about something you know nothing about and you likely never will 

It's the internet. what do you expect?

post #95 of 116
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Sorry, forgot about that.
Here, someone scanned it into scribd.:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/174876217/Annals-of-Law-The-Collapse-Dewey-LeBoeuf

Read the whole thing. Fascinating. Next TV show.
post #96 of 116
Try Good Wife
post #97 of 116
Tried once, but too late to start it at this point. It's always conflicted with something else.
post #98 of 116

http://www.theskichannel.com/news/olympics/20131122/lindsey-vonn-expects-quick-recovery-back-to-racing

 

“PS: Don’t worry guys, this is only a temporary setback. Nothing will keep me from picking myself back up and continuing to fight for my dreams. #Sochi2014 #whenyoufallgetbackup #notstopping #workinghard.”

post #99 of 116

This article was in my Vail Resorts Employee Newsletter this morning. 

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/Lindsey-Vonn-Delays-ACL-Surgery.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweet

Quote:
<Snip from article> 

12:03 p.m. December 2

In order to compete at the Sochi Olympics, Lindsey Vonn is delaying ACL surgery and continuing to train following a knee injury in November.

On Sunday, she reportedly took two warmup runs followed by three aggressive passes through the super-G course at Vail. Although she withdrew from a World Cup race at Beaver Creek last weekend, she still plans on racing at a World Cup event in Lake Louise depending on her knee.

"So it's kind of like, might as well see how long it holds up. Not a lot of options. In the end, surgery is going to have to happen," Vonn told reporters after a training session at Vail on Sunday.

post #100 of 116

Although she now feels surgery is inevitable, the best case scenario, given her decision to test it out, is that she skis well and avoids further damage.  If she does that through the Olympics and has no stability issues, then questions arise as to the timing of the surgery or even if there is a reason to have the surgery at all (unless there is further damage). 

post #101 of 116
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

This article was in my Vail Resorts Employee Newsletter this morning. 

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/Lindsey-Vonn-Delays-ACL-Surgery.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweet

Quote:
<Snip from article> 

12:03 p.m. December 2

In order to compete at the Sochi Olympics, Lindsey Vonn is delaying ACL surgery and continuing to train following a knee injury in November.

On Sunday, she reportedly took two warmup runs followed by three aggressive passes through the super-G course at Vail. Although she withdrew from a World Cup race at Beaver Creek last weekend, she still plans on racing at a World Cup event in Lake Louise depending on her knee.

"So it's kind of like, might as well see how long it holds up. Not a lot of options. In the end, surgery is going to have to happen," Vonn told reporters after a training session at Vail on Sunday.

She is risking a lot for these Olympic Games... I hope she pulls through without any other injuries... 

post #102 of 116

Her best hope is to get a photo with Bob Peter's wife ASAP.

Mikaela went from zero to World Cup Overall Women's Slalom Champion in less than a year after her photo!

 

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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
 

She's just on fire.  It's just unbelievable what she's done.

 

Some photos of her skiing at A-Basin this past May 1, 2012:

 

There's a little story behind this first photo.  This is Mikaela and my wife.  We introduced ourselves when a bunch of EpicSkiers were all skiing the Basin on May 1 and we saw Mikaela and her mom out practicing.  I asked if I could take a photo of Mikaela and my wife, and Mikaela was very gracious about it.  

 

We then joked with her that my wife is a good luck charm for ski racers.  She's had her photo taken with Olympic gold medalists Picabo Street, Tommy Moe, Pepi Stiegler, Franz Klammer, Stein Ericksen, Phil Mahre, Pirmin Zurbriggen, and Bode Miller.  By the end of February of 2014, she'll be able to add Mikaela to that list.

 

 

1000

 

Mikaela and her mom:

 

 

1000

 

 

Doing her thing...

 

1000

 

1000

 

1000

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
 

 

Great story SkiRacer!

Did she go to Green Mt. also or did you mean Burke?

 

    See below post from @Bob Peters for the context for the following.

 

Well, here's "The Rest of the Story.."

(voice of Paul Harvey)

 

 May of 2012. High in the mountains of Colorado, there is still snow. A ski area, a place called... Arapahoe Basin. A young ski racer and her mom. The racer training late in the season, following the snow. During a break from that training, the girl and her mom stop to take photos with a Mrs Bob Peters. Now Mrs. Peters, unknown to the racer and her mom, is famous for having her picture taken with the truly great racers. Olympic champions, World cup Winners, World Cup Champions. All the best, through the years. Many a photo. Many a champion.

 

Fast forward. Next race season. The young racer wins a slalom race on the World Cup. Quite a feat for someone still in high school, even more so for an American. Then she wins another, and another. When she's not winning, she's placing close to the top. She's now a huge sensation. Known all over Europe.

 

Now, at the World Championships, a place called Schladming in Austria. It is after her first run in the slalom. She is way behind. Nearly two seconds. Two seconds in a race often decided by mere hundreths of a second is... a nearly impossible task. The young racer is demoralized.  But it has been done. The great Italian champion Alberto Tomba famous for coming back from such deficits.

It begins to dawn on the racer it is possible. With the support of her mom, her team mates, coaches. All the years of training and focus come into play. Plus... there is that photo with Mrs. Peters. Taken seemingly now, long ago.

 

So she gets into the start determined. Pushes off. Soon it is apparent she is skiing extremely well. Fast, smooth. Yet there's still the two seconds to overcome. Halfway down it's apparent it may be possible to the crowd. They start to get loud as such a feat would be truly special. Nearing the bottom the racer is still gaining. The crowd senses the young American is about to pull off the near impossible and starts going crazy when in fact she wins.

 

The young American goes on to win other races. By the end of the season she has won the overall World Cup for Women in Slalom. All before graduating high school.

And all made possible by... that day in May. May 2012 in the mountains of Colorado. A place called Arapahoe Basin. A young racer named Mikaela Shiffrin had her picture taken with a Mrs. Bob Peters. And now we look at it and what is it?  It is a now a photo of World Champion Mikaela Shiffrin and Mrs.Peters.

 

And that my friends is the rest of the story.

 

post #103 of 116
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post
 

Although she now feels surgery is inevitable, the best case scenario, given her decision to test it out, is that she skis well and avoids further damage.  If she does that through the Olympics and has no stability issues, then questions arise as to the timing of the surgery or even if there is a reason to have the surgery at all (unless there is further damage).

 

I can only speak from my own experience--I never felt much instability after my ACL tear. I tore my ACL the same week as Vonn, but didn't have surgery until late May. The reason my doctor, my physical therapist, and I decided on reconstruction was based on a few factors: 1) I want to ski for a long time (I figure I have 30 years left in me); 2) I want to ski at the same level at which I was skiing; and 3) I had to have surgery for the meniscus damage--which ended up not needing surgery.

 

Lindsey did a ton of damage to the ACL and other structures when she was injured. They never would have gone in there to fix everything else and not have fixed her ACL. I'm hoping she's one that could do without surgery, but only her and her doctor will know.

 

Does anyone know if she had a hamstring autograft?

post #104 of 116
That's what she said on the Letterman show posted above or somewhere else.
post #105 of 116

So she had her first race today....
that brace looks beefy, overall all didn't look to bad, but she seemed to struggle a bit on the right footers, which makes sense. Let's see how she does tomorrow...

post #106 of 116

She looked pretty good!

edit: Don't know what this article is talking about. Vonn finished 40th right behind Stacey Cook. Julia Ford was the highest American finish at 21 (start 56 bib)

Maria Hoefl-Riesch won.

Results: http://www.fis-ski.com/alpine-skiing/events-and-places/event=33418/race=75137/index.html

 

Quote: USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2013/12/06/lindsey-vonn-downhill-race-lake-louise/3894157/

In her first race back since tearing the ACL and medial collateral ligament in her right knee, the extreme cold and fog delayed the start of the race. If Vonn was cold, her performance didn't show it on Friday. She crossed the finish line 14th fastest out of 18 skiers in the first day of the downhill competition. Several of the top women were racing behind her.

 

Vonn skipped Thursday's training run because she said she accomplished her goal of skiing her race line the previous day. "And if I can accomplish that in one run, I don't need a second run," Vonn said. "I know this course so well. I don't need to take a bunch of runs for it."

 

 

Here she is:

 

http://youtu.be/X0Z2Rm8NNk4


Edited by Tog - 12/6/13 at 5:55pm
post #107 of 116
I think the article meant she had the 14th after finishing the run? Idk.
post #108 of 116

After watching the video, I think they meant she was 14th out of the first 18 racers to go. They just couldn't wait to see the final results and report those.

post #109 of 116
Conn was bib #18 and finished 14th, it's a good start.
post #110 of 116
post #111 of 116
The web http://www.lakelouisealpineskiworldcup.com/ladies-weekend.html says women's downhill yesterday AND today. I'm confused.
post #112 of 116

She is definitely giving the knee a go again today:

 

Startlist

Bib
FIS Code
Name
Year
Skis
         
8 537545
USA
MANCUSO Julia
1984 Head
         
18 537544
USA
VONN Lindsey
1984 Head
19 537582
USA
COOK Stacey
1984 Rossignol
         
26 538573
USA
ROSS Laurenne
1988 Voelkl
         
29 538305
USA
SMITH Leanne
1987 Rossignol
post #113 of 116
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Originally Posted by quant2325 View Post
 

She is definitely giving the knee a go again today:

 

Startlist

Bib
FIS Code
Name
Year
Skis
         
8 537545
USA
MANCUSO Julia
1984 Head
         
18 537544
USA
VONN Lindsey
1984 Head
19 537582
USA
COOK Stacey
1984 Rossignol
         
26 538573
USA
ROSS Laurenne
1988 Voelkl
         
29 538305
USA
SMITH Leanne
1987 Rossignol

So is this another, separate DH?  Or cumulative? Or is the event labeled wrong and its not really DH?

Sorry for being clueless ast to how these things are organized -- I just read the headlines and watch when I happen across coverage.

post #114 of 116
There were two downhills scheduled. Normal. Usually a couple downhill training runs in advance, then one or two races. Depending on weather, of course.
post #115 of 116
Scott43, yes my bd, went with where she was when I quit watching around the 40th skier and that's where she was still reported to be. She did ski much better today.
post #116 of 116
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Scott43, yes my bd, went with where she was when I quit watching around the 40th skier and that's where she was still reported to be. She did ski much better today.

 

Considering the condition of her knee, she killed it today!  :-)  11th and just getting warmed up it seems.  Hopefully she can continue to rehab/strengthen and put in a good showing at the Olympics.

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