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Advanced Intermediate, New Ski Advice Overload, Looking at Bonafide, Brahma, Soul 7 or Hell and Back

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
I'm 56 year old 200 lb. blue run skier who skis 20 days per year in Park City. I can ski all blue runs comfortably. I don't ski particularly fast or aggressive. I tend to make many small turns to bleed off speed rather than traverse the entire run. Looking for the ski I can ski on the groomers and also when we get a little pow. I plan on buying any of the following skis the day after Thanksgiving: Blizzard Bonafide, Blizzard Brahma, Nordica Hell and Back, or Rossignol Soul 7. All seem highly rated for the blue run skier. Price is not a major factor. I need a lot of help with my choice. If I spend much more time reading ski reviews and forums my head will explode.
Thanks to anyone who can help me out.
post #2 of 9

I have only skied the Soul 7 in that list, but I think it would work for you quite well.  Very easy to ski, likes to make short turns, happy carving or skidding.

 

Just not sure of the length for you at your weight, most likely the 180 would be short for you, that's what I skied at about 20 lbs lighter 61 year old.

post #3 of 9
What ski do you presently ski? I previously owned the Bonafide and have demoed the Brahma and now own the Soul 7. But, I ski 90% of my days in Vermont. The Soul 7 is pretty different than the two Blizzards you are thinking about. I strongly suggest that you demo these and maybe some others before making a decision.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
I have Fischer Motive 80.
post #5 of 9
Nice front side ski. For me that would knock the Brahma at 88 out of the picture as you already have an 80 in your quiver. Demo the Bonafide and the Soul or others. Based on how you ski the bones might be a bit more work. The Soul is a bit more powder oriented but also carves nice and my be a great two ski quiver with the Motive for Park City.
post #6 of 9

They're all very good skis.  Each and every one is a great choice, but they're very different animals.  A couple of important bits of information are needed.  Are you looking to keep the Motive and add a wider ski to your quiver, or are you looking to replace your current ski with something else a bit more versatile?  Also, do you prefer to carve your small turns on a solid, locked-in edge or are you happier to pivot, drift, and smear along with your carves?

 

I would suggest the Soul7 is mostly a deeper snow ski with the ability to work ok on piste as long as the snow is soft enough.  If you're adding another ski to your quiver this would be a standout choice.  If not I suspect you should look for something a bit narrower and demo the Soul7 on a new snow day (just for kicks).

 

If you're hanging onto the Motive the Brahma will have too much overlap and you should go wider.  With its slight tip/tail rocker the Brahma will have a more 'loose' feel than your Fischers - easier for making your "many small turns", but with a different feel.  If you're replacing the Motive the Brahma or Bonafide might be a great option, but if you haven't tried them already it would be worth demoing one of the metal-layered flipcore skis to make sure it's what you're looking for.

 

The H&B is a different thing. It's a light weight, lively ski with huge edge hold on harder snow.  It will hook up and carve on piste quite happily and then work for you off piste as well.  There's no metal in the layup, so it will have a livelier feel than either of the Blizzards, and the more traditional cambered shape gives it a definite pop coming out of your turns.  Once again it's worth demoing this one to make sure that feel is something you're comfortable with.

 

So, apologies but the answer seems to be to demo.  You've picked great skis, but they will all feel very different.

 

If you're keeping the Motives the Soul7 is probably the way to go.  You'll cover more conditions with the two pair than with any single pair of the others.

 

If you're replacing the Motives I would demo the Brahma, the Bonafide and the H&B (or possibly it's narrower brother the Steadfast) to see which you prefer.

 

Now, to drift the thread mercilessly.  If you're replacing the Motives, and if you're really looking for a locked-in, small, carved turn I would add the Rossi E88 to the mix.  It has early rise in the tip and tail, and has more shape to the tail, which will help with short turns.  At your size go for the 178 as the 186 needs some speed to come to life.  The Dynastar Outland 87 is also worth a try in that same space.

 

Best of luck and enjoy your season.

post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by sinbad7 View Post

 

I would suggest the Soul7 is mostly a deeper snow ski with the ability to work ok on piste as long as the snow is soft enough.  If you're adding another ski to your quiver this would be a standout choice.  If not I suspect you should look for something a bit narrower and demo the Soul7 on a new snow day (just for kicks).

 

If you're keeping the Motives the Soul7 is probably the way to go.  You'll cover more conditions with the two pair than with any single pair of the others.

Totally agree with this.  Those Soul 7's are a very nice looking ski on paper, as I have not tried them.  However, they remind me of my TST's and those are very fun on powder days and manageable on firm snow, just not my favorite if the snow is firm.

post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
I plan to keep the Motives for harder packed snow days.
post #9 of 9

A ski quiver with an 80 under foot and a low 100's is a good combo unless you ski in a lot of really deep snow, than I guess a 3rd ski would be nice.

 

My quiver is the 80 underfoot Blizzard Magnum 8.0 and the Soul 7 at 106 underfoot.  Ski in the East and at least 1 week out west each season.

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