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post #31 of 42
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

I've been warned that they become damaged - in transit - and had it suggested that I make bubble wrap sleeves to put on when I put them in my roof box.
What kind of damage are we talking about? Is the problem peculiar to the Soul 7? I'm not sure I should own skis that fragile!

ETA: sorry, I've got new Temptation 88s, not S7s. Got the same issue with the tune, too--total mystery as to what I was even skiing on that made me so happy. rolleyes.gif
post #32 of 42
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Try them.  Then if you know how to tune and ski, then tell me you can't tell the difference.  The factory machine tunes suck!  Of course it takes a good skier who can really carve a high edge angle to tell the difference.  In my opinion, if you think a factory machine tune is good...........well, I'm too nice to say it. 

Well I guess I'll see if I'm a good enough skier to tell the difference................

 

They'll end up at 2 degrees at some point  anyway as I don't own a 1 degree side edge guide.

post #33 of 42
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Originally Posted by litterbug View Post

What kind of damage are we talking about? Is the problem peculiar to the Soul 7? I'm not sure I should own skis that fragile!

ETA: sorry, I've got new Temptation 88s, not S7s. Got the same issue with the tune, too--total mystery as to what I was even skiing on that made me so happy. rolleyes.gif
I was told by a knowledgeable ski salesperson that there were some incidences last spring, of broken tips due to combo of honeycomb tips/tails during airline baggage transit and that extra care should be taken to avoid issues. I.e flip the tails and tips to offset and alleviate pressure and place some extra protection (which I always do around any skis during airline travel) around the tips and tails. My understanding is that there were only a few incidences, but with so many of us jumping on the soul 7's and with the manner in which most airlines handle baggage, especially long ski bags, better to be forewarned and play it as safe as can be and avoid a surprise when you open your ski bag. This very very minor chance of damage would not deter me at all. And my insurance covers all anyhow!
post #34 of 42
For better or worse I don't expect to fly with my skis this year, but I guess I should be just a little more conscientious loading the boards in the rocket box. I have a replacement value policy, but my rate went up a bit after payouts for two stolen bikes last year, so I'd just as soon leave the insurance company alone for a while.
post #35 of 42

Thanks, all. This is very helpful. I had the Souls out yesterday with the factory tune and, while I love the ski, I found that they wanted to drift out of the carve on long arcs. Icehold, while not expected to be especially good, was pretty much negligible. I don't tune my own skis, and haven't paid too much attention to bevel. After reading this thread, I called my shop- they've tuned my skis for years- my usual edge bevel is .75 base 2 side, so that's what they're putting on. We'll see how it works. Do love the ski, it's meant for powder, but you never know what you're gonna get.

post #36 of 42

I agree with all about doing a "personal tune" once you get new skis!

 

Where I question some skier's comments and practices is,,,,,, tuning a powder/crud ski for hard pack "carving type turns"  ( in case I just might hit some ice/hard pack )!

 

Seems to me a ski has its performance range and terrain type!

 

Tuning should be done in reference to this range, terrain type and skier's performance wishes.

 

It is personal.

 

Like all of you,,I tuned my Soul 7s since I do note a poor consistency in tuning ( for all ski companies) and I am known to be demanding !

 

I was once taught,,,,,less is best as far as tuning a ski !

 

A wise practice if you are not sure.

 

Just my view point

 

Respectfully,

Pa

post #37 of 42
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Originally Posted by Voila View Post
 

I agree with all about doing a "personal tune" once you get new skis!

 

Where I question some skier's comments and practices is,,,,,, tuning a powder/crud ski for hard pack "carving type turns"  ( in case I just might hit some ice/hard pack )!

 

Seems to me a ski has its performance range and terrain type!

 

Tuning should be done in reference to this range, terrain type and skier's performance wishes.

 

 

This can be a problem on an EC powder day. While some runs might be great, you occasionally end up on run that might be ice the whole way down as the snow has been blown off it completely. Jumping back into the woods is not an option at many ski areas. I'd rather have some edges to deal with those runs. Still waiting for my season to start to try these skis.

post #38 of 42

The choppers broke... you never know when you'll hit a wind scoured chute or a long runout. That's what's so fun about this new crop of versatile mid fats- 107ish being "midfat"...

post #39 of 42
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post
 

Thanks, all. This is very helpful. I had the Souls out yesterday with the factory tune and, while I love the ski, I found that they wanted to drift out of the carve on long arcs. Icehold, while not expected to be especially good, was pretty much negligible. I don't tune my own skis, and haven't paid too much attention to bevel. After reading this thread, I called my shop- they've tuned my skis for years- my usual edge bevel is .75 base 2 side, so that's what they're putting on. We'll see how it works. Do love the ski, it's meant for powder, but you never know what you're gonna get.


Question is, is that a hand tune, or a machine tune?  .7 base will make it playful.  The side angle will only make a difference if you do high edge angle carves.  If you don't a 1 base will be even more playful.  Thing is, it more than likely has a 1+ base already.  You can't add steel!

post #40 of 42
Jacques: I'm pretty sure it's mostly done on a Montana machine. I've used excellent hand tune specialists in the past - Podium in Park City and Sportloft in SLC, but I'm purely a recreational skier so this works fine. Playful is good- and I love a high edge angle in a big turn, even on a "powder" ski. I use Cole Sport on the Plaza at PCMR. Rennstahl, which is now part of Jan's, is next door and caters to racers. Really good ski techs here, in general.
post #41 of 42
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post

Jacques: I'm pretty sure it's mostly done on a Montana machine. I've used excellent hand tune specialists in the past - Podium in Park City and Sportloft in SLC, but I'm purely a recreational skier so this works fine. Playful is good- and I love a high edge angle in a big turn, even on a "powder" ski. I use Cole Sport on the Plaza at PCMR. Rennstahl, which is now part of Jan's, is next door and caters to racers. Really good ski techs here, in general.


I have a 1 & 3 tune on my JJ's and when I want to carve them it's awesome.  The powder doesn't care really what the tune is.  Tune for the carve and have fun!  You don't need to be a racer to appreciate a good hand tune.  A bad tune will hold back any progression you might be looking for.

post #42 of 42

Skied the Soul 7s Thanksgiving day on Bristol's WROD-they held on hardpack pretty well with the factory tune, especially for a 106 waist ski. They're in the basement now for another coat of wax, and I'll probably up the side angle to 2 degrees.

 

For anything firmer, I'll ski my beater pair of Atomic D2 GS cheaters.................
 

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