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post #1 of 28
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Hey everyone,

 

I was hoping you guys could help me out.  I wanted to buy a pair of ski gloves for my boyfriend’s birthday and need some advice to find some good gloves.  He mentioned heated gloves to me and I thought those would be a good way to go.  If anyone has any experience with heated gloves and can tell me if they are a good investment and what brands I should look at I would really appreciate it.

 

Thanks! 

post #2 of 28

For heated gloves, look at Chaval.  They are the best heated ones, IME.  Spendy though, you can buy a lot of disposable hand-warmers for that much money:

https://www.chavalusa.com/

 

For non-heated, Black Diamond's Guide is an excellent cold-weather glove:

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/ski-gloves/guide-glove-BD801514_cfg.html

post #3 of 28
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
 

For heated gloves, look at Chaval.  They are the best heated ones, IME.  Spendy though, you can buy a lot of disposable hand-warmers for that much money:

https://www.chavalusa.com/

 

For non-heated, Black Diamond's Guide is an excellent cold-weather glove:

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/ski-gloves/guide-glove-BD801514_cfg.html


I have a bit of Raynaud's phenomenon.  Mitts with boiled wool inserts and disposable hand warmers work well but are bulky and the hand warmers stop working too quickly.  Also, I volunteer at ski races (timing mostly) and can't do some things with mitts that I could do with gloves, so heated gloves that allow good dexterity would be useful.  I tried another brand, I think OR, but the gloves didn't work and MEC took them back w/o question. 

 

The Chaval gloves look great.  Do they work as well as their website suggests?  How do they do on cold days?

post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by canadianskier View Post
 
The Chaval gloves look great.  Do they work as well as their website suggests?  How do they do on cold days?

 

Yes, they work well, especially on cold days.  They're superior as far as warmth, even heat distribution, and dexterity.  The batteries are very unobtrusive.  I just got a new updated pair for testing today, so we'll see how well the alphaHEAT technology works.  Last year's model didn't regulate the heat output as much as I'd hoped, but they promise improvements.  

post #5 of 28

You're going to get as many glove recommendations as there are hands.  I have no experience in regards to heated gloves; however, my hands have spent the past couple seasons in Hestra gloves (their Heli glove to be specific).

 

I also have the Heli 3-finger version for brutally cold days which provides some dexterity  (adjusting ski boot buckles, fiddling with goggles, opening trail maps, etc) but also provides mitten-like warmth for most of your hand.

 

The three-finger version is the warmest glove I've come across, and I'm guessing "warmth" is a priority if your boyfriend suggested heated gloves.

post #6 of 28
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
 

 

Yes, they work well, especially on cold days.  They're superior as far as warmth, even heat distribution, and dexterity.  The batteries are very unobtrusive.  I just got a new updated pair for testing today, so we'll see how well the alphaHEAT technology works.  Last year's model didn't regulate the heat output as much as I'd hoped, but they promise improvements.  


thanks

post #7 of 28

For non heated gloves I'm pretty tempted to grab a pair of Astis mittens... they look cool and from what I've seen on reviews are pretty warm!

post #8 of 28
Almost no glove would be as warm as mittens. Just saying:-). Also a frequently overlooked problem on multi-day trips is drying. Even the warmest glove will feel cold if it is damp. In general, gloves with a removable liner are the easiest to dry. Both BD Guide and Hestra Heli recommended here are removable liner gloves. I'd also add Arcteryx Alpha SV to the mix, they do not look as warm as Guides, but because of their excellent breath ability they feel quite warm in a storm.

Of the three Guides are solid and substantial, Heli is a no-frills effective design, and Alphas are the whiz-bang technological showpiece. No experience with heated gloves. $400 seems kind of spendy though.
post #9 of 28

I wear mittens almost always for skiing.  The brand doesn't matter that much and it definitely isn't necessary to spend a great deal of money.  All you're looking for with mittens is independent liner and shell construction.  So, in other words, the mitts are made up of your waterproof and wind resistant outer skin, then a separate set of liners inside that that are removeable/washable/wearable on their own when it gets warm. 

 

These are my favorite:  MEC Overlord Mittens

post #10 of 28

Nice feature is a wiper on the thumb for clearing the goggles.  I use least expensive GoreTex mittens with wiper and then use the sticky foot warmer inserts vs. the hand warmers (always dropping out of the mitts).  Insert makes it easier to peel the sticky hand/foot warmer out of the glove at the end of the day.

post #11 of 28

The shop where I work at Sun Peaks, B.C. sells the Hestra Electric gloves for $400 and they work great. They are  probably a bit cheaper in the USA.

 

I have had customers tell me that they have purchased electric gloves on line for far less than $400 and while the electric heaters worked ok, the gloves themselves were poor quality and fell apart.

post #12 of 28

my vote goes for Hestra... i have the seth 5 finger gloves and best i have ever had... also own the mitts to go over them to add extra warmth... 

 

if i was to buy new ones i would buy some of the three finger gloves... 

post #13 of 28
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my vote goes for Hestra... i have the seth 5 finger gloves and best i have ever had... also own the mitts to go over them to add extra warmth... 

 

if i was to buy new ones i would buy some of the three finger gloves... 

So do you manage to get mitts over the seth pro model hestra? How's that possible? I'd think your hands will feel like they have a cast!

post #14 of 28
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So do you manage to get mitts over the seth pro model hestra? How's that possible? I'd think your hands will feel like they have a cast!

its these... just makes them slightly bigger...

 

http://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/695-Hestra-Seam-Sealed-Shell-Mitten-Black/

 

designed to go over the gloves...

 

this thread is making me buy HESTRA VERTICAL CUT FREERIDE to go with my new Sweet protection jacket...

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post #16 of 28
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Black Diamond Cayene Glove & Mitten.  3 heat settings good for 10 hours at the low setting.  $399.95.  $10 more than the Chaval's.

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/ski-gloves/cayenne-glove-BD801477_cfg.html?dwvar_BD801477__cfg_color=Black#start=4

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/ski-gloves/cayenne-mitt-BD801481_cfg.html?dwvar_BD801481__cfg_color=Black#start=6

Tried 'em?
post #17 of 28
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Tried 'em?

Nope!  Just played with them in the shop.  They are toasty.  If you have frost bite damage or Raynaud's Syndrome I could see the value.   Not something I would personally drop money on.

 

So this might be of value to some.  My issue with gloves is I have sweaty hands and my gloves would always wet out from the inside.  Not a big deal on a 30° day but once it drops below 10° my hands get cold no matter what.    For years the solution has been gloves with air permeable backs and pack an extra pair.  Friend suggested using nitrile gloves as a vapor barrier on really cold days.  Tried it and it works.  Keeps the inside of my gloves dry and my hands stay warm.  I have only ever done this maybe 2 days in a row with no funky results.  Not sure what 5 days in a row would be like for you guys living in areas where its consistently really cold.

post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by RedHead83 View Post
 

Hey everyone,

 

I was hoping you guys could help me out.  I wanted to buy a pair of ski gloves for my boyfriend’s birthday and need some advice to find some good gloves.  He mentioned heated gloves to me and I thought those would be a good way to go.  If anyone has any experience with heated gloves and can tell me if they are a good investment and what brands I should look at I would really appreciate it.

 

Thanks! 

Do you know why he mentioned heated gloves?  Has he experienced cold hands when skiing in the past?  If so, was he using good quality ski gloves?  Most people don't need heated gloves, nor mittens (the warmest option), because their hands produce enough warmth to stay warm inside high quality ski gloves.  I'm talking about GOOD gloves, not cheap ones; they will keep most people's hands warm most of the time.  If you two are new to skiing and aren't familiar with how warm regular ski gloves can be, I'd advise buying him good quality ski gloves without batteries.  Take him to a ski shop and have him try stuff on.  It's fun.

 

But if he's aware of all this and knows his hands need extra warmth, consider mittens, not heated gloves. 

 

I'm one of those people who need lots of extra warmth, so I use mittens.  Nothing is as warm as high quality ski mittens with disposable hand-warmers inside against the skin.  But mittens are clumsy.  Heated gloves are much more expensive and don't come close to providing the heat that mittens can offer.  

post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by rug wheelie View Post
 

Nope!  Just played with them in the shop.  They are toasty.  If you have frost bite damage or Raynaud's Syndrome I could see the value.   Not something I would personally drop money on.

 

So this might be of value to some.  My issue with gloves is I have sweaty hands and my gloves would always wet out from the inside.  Not a big deal on a 30° day but once it drops below 10° my hands get cold no matter what.    For years the solution has been gloves with air permeable backs and pack an extra pair.  Friend suggested using nitrile gloves as a vapor barrier on really cold days.  Tried it and it works.  Keeps the inside of my gloves dry and my hands stay warm.  I have only ever done this maybe 2 days in a row with no funky results.  Not sure what 5 days in a row would be like for you guys living in areas where its consistently really cold.


+1 - Nitrate vapor barrier works.  Cheap...but a bit funky, as your hands will end up soaked (but warm).

post #20 of 28
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+1 - Nitrate vapor barrier works.  Cheap...but a bit funky, as your hands will end up soaked (but warm).

Tried that once, talk about uncomfortable, almost impossible to put gloves on and off too.
post #21 of 28

Hi Bob Lee

 

Any further feedback on the Chaval heated glove ? Comments ? Reviews ?

 

Thanks

post #22 of 28
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Hi Bob Lee

 

Any further feedback on the Chaval heated glove ? Comments ? Reviews ?

 

Thanks

 

My review has been submitted but hasn't been published yet - I have to see what's going on there, but I'll say this:

First off they're expensive, but you knew that.  However, Chaval has made some significant advances in heated gloves.  The heat is extremely even and effective, and the gloves are warm, even when they aren't turned on.  The battery life is the best of the gloves I've tested, and they are well constructed with very nice materials.  They are simple to operate (unlike some other similar gloves), and the batteries are unobtrusive.  Dexterity is good.

 

Downsides: Expensive, and not particularly light.  When my hands were wet, there was some binding in the lining putting them on and taking them off - this is a somewhat common issue with ski gloves.  They have a waterproof-breathable lining, but that leaked when I dunked the gloves in a tub of water and held them under for 5 minutes - I wouldn't expect that to be a problem unless you use them in warmer, wetter climates.

 

If you can afford them and suffer from cold hands, I'd say these are the electrically-warmed gloves to get.   

post #23 of 28

Chaval heated gloves

after 8-10 uses one glove won't turn off unless I disconnect the wires and the other one won't turn on at all. They have not been abused, quite the contrary actually.

I have used them for 8-10 days of skiing only.

In my opinion these gloves at nearly $400 are a total rip off.

I have reached out to Chaval via email and telephone but have not received any reply.

From my experience with this product I would suggest buying ANYTHING ELSE in the heated glove department.

I expected more from a $400 pair of gloves.

I have Raynauds Syndrome in my hands and need heated gloves to be out in the cold.

This product has failed, an Epic Failure in my opinion.

post #24 of 28
Huh, I tested the Chavals working hard on patrol for a couple of months pre-season and during the season, building a locker room and hauling and putting up slat fences, heavy trail signs, t-stakes, and ropes. I put holes in the shells on nails and splinters, and threw them into tool boxes, etc. etc. and never had a problem with the wiring. And I have had close contact with them and fast replies to my inquiries. I have no affiliation with Chaval, and my contact with them was as an independent tester working for an independent website.

So, just sayin' that your experience may not be universal. But nice first post.
post #25 of 28
If you, gentle reader, come across this thread while looking for info on Chaval Gloves, please read this follow-up thread:
http://www.epicski.com/t/128059/chaval-glove-follow-up-and-update-to-post-on-3-20-14

And this:
http://www.gearinstitute.com/skiing/ski-gloves/item/chaval-response-xrt-electrically-heated-gloves
Edited by Bob Lee - 9/26/14 at 2:49pm
post #26 of 28

I also need to buy my husband a good pair of (heated) gloves. He has medical issues and needs to warm his hands while driving - not skiing. I can't afford $400 but could probably pull together up to $200 if the gloves work well and "are worth it".  What is the best option for a lower price point?  Lower-price heated gloves, or non-heated Hestra, etc?? Please give me advice.

 

thank you!

post #27 of 28
Outdoor Research has a couple of new heated gloves. One Is about $350 and the other is $235. Haven't tried them but looks tempting.
http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/catalog/product/view/_ignore_category/1/id/44444/s/lucent-heated-gloves/

http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/catalog/product/view/id/44450/
post #28 of 28

Thank you! 

Are there any features I should be looking for -- where battery is located, battery v rechargeable, leather v fabric -- I don't know what I'm doing.

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