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Want to use my regular downhill gear for light duty cross country.

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
My buddy wants to do a ten mile ski trip to a hut in Yosemite somewhere. The only pair of skis that I have are some 178cm, 108mm, Line Sir Francis Bacons.

I haven't cross country skied before and I honestly don't see myself doing it a lot, at least not enough to justify purchasing an entire set of cross country gear.

1. Can I get by with just some climbing skins for my Bacons?

2. There is no way I can use my normal boots - I can hardly even walk in them as it is.

Can anyone recommend some boots that would be fine to walk and hike in all day but could also be used to ski cross country and also with regular bindings in regular downhill skis in the resorts? My feet are super wide and they would need to be stretched out as well. So basically one set of ski boots to do it all.

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post #2 of 17

Assuming there is not much elevation gain/loss in the 10 miles

 

1- Yes. The Bacons will be fine with skins to get you in.

 

2- You could surely score some used waxless XC skis and boots for much less than the cost of skins,  A/T boot and binding.

 

I rented for my first alpine tour.

post #3 of 17

just get some waxless touring skis, the entire set up will be cheaper than a pair of AT boots.

 

there is no way I would skin 10 miles on bacons...

post #4 of 17

Do you even have AT bindings on your Bacons.  If not, you should rent XC gear.  Trying to do that long a trek on regular downhill ski bindings will be quite painful; to say the least!

post #5 of 17
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just get some waxless touring skis, the entire set up will be cheaper than a pair of AT boots.

 

there is no way I would skin 10 miles on bacons...

"get them" by renting them for a few days... but yeah, ^^^this^^^

post #6 of 17

IMO 10 miles is a long way even in XC gear. Doing that on downhill gear with skins, even if it is flat, will be torture. Honestly, you'll get 2 miles into that trip and literally want to kill yourself.

 

I went to Play it Again Sports this time last year and got XC skis, boots, and poles for $35, all used but in good enough condition.

post #7 of 17

Hey fuzzybunny, just rent!  REI or another outfitter should have the proper gear for you.  Are going to ski when you get there or is it just getting there and back?  That will determine what kind of setup you need... or just rent what your buddy is going to use so you are both in the same boat.

post #8 of 17

As this has the earmarks of an epic in the making, be sure to let us know how the trip went when (if?) you make it back out.

post #9 of 17
You will be very, very sore is you attempt to use your down hill skis without AT bindings or at the very least Alpine Trackers. I would recommend renting some AT bindings and skis or purchase some BCA Alpine Trackers. Pictures of your heels should be posted up after this trip.
post #10 of 17
Yeah, no need to torture yourself. Cross country stuff are super light, and boots are like regular street shoes, comfort level is night and day. And they are way cheaper than downhill gears.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the tips guys. My primary issue are with the boots. My feet are very very wide and every ski boot I've had, even the wide ones, have had to be stretched out considerably by a boot fitter. Most off the rack tennis shoes don't fit me either unless they are 4E.

So, I can't really buy used XC gear or whatever because it's just not going to fit. Renting doesn't work for me either. When I first started skiing I rented and it was torture on my feet. Despite not even knowing if I wanted to continue with the sport, I went ahead and bought a new pair of boots after only 3 days in the mountain and got them stretched because I simply couldn't do the rental stuff at all.

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post #12 of 17

Snowshoes

 

edit to say: Seriously


Edited by wooley12 - 11/14/13 at 10:45pm
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post #14 of 17
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Snowshoes

 

edit to say: Seriously

with feet that wide what would be the benefit???

post #15 of 17
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Thanks for the tips guys. My primary issue are with the boots. My feet are very very wide and every ski boot I've had, even the wide ones, have had to be stretched out considerably by a boot fitter. Most off the rack tennis shoes don't fit me either unless they are 4E.

So, I can't really buy used XC gear or whatever because it's just not going to fit. Renting doesn't work for me either.

 

Fuzzy, I have wide feet too - also wear a 4E (tennis) shoe, and my alpine boots have a 103mm last, not because I want a bedroom slipper to ski in, but because I really need the width. I got into XC skiing last season, and plan to do a lot more. Bought a pair of these...

 

http://www.rei.com/product/822532/rossignol-bc-x5-cross-country-ski-boots

 

( Nice thing about REI is that you can Return-Every-Item!  ;-)

 

I didn't do any 10 mile treks, but I found them snug yet comfortable, no width problems. One downside to those boots is that the ratchet strap is crap, so I bought a pair of these...

 

http://www.inlinewarehouse.com/Sonic_Arch___Ankle_Tighteners/descpage-SAT.html

 

...and that solved that problem.

 

Note those boots are compatible with NNN BC bindings. Cheap used XC skis with NNN BC bindings can often be found at thrift stores, or on CL or eBay. If you're not planning on doing a lot of serious downhill an NNN BC setup could be a good way to go.

 

Here's a good video that discusses a few different NNN BC and 3 Pin/Telemark boot and binding options...

 

 


Edited by jc-ski - 11/15/13 at 10:40am
post #16 of 17

You should seriously look for some xc gear.  You can get a used set up super cheap and just find boots that fit.  10 mils on xc gear is easier than 10 miles hiking IMO. That depends, however on their being a track. Anything will be a slog if you are breaking trail.  10 miles on your alpine rig would be torture.

post #17 of 17

10 miles in alpine bindings sounds like hell.

 

If you had comfy boots, I would consider Alpine Trekkers and skins (but even this is a fair bit of cash).

 

Lacking comfy boots, you really, really just need to rent the gear.

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