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Slalom Race "cheater" - right or wrong choice ?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

 This year I have decided to add a pair of skis that would be primarily used on midwestern man-made smaller hills while "chasing" around my 5 and 7 year olds. While the girls are in ski school I would use those to work on my carving technique and have fun with some slalom type runs (hills are small - so I got to make some fun out of it). Man-made, often icy, groomed conditions most of the time.

After looking at some Elan Amphibios, I decided that they would be too much money for a ski that would be used on small hills and went with purchasing some race "cheater" slalom skis with 14.5m radius. What community says about this, are the "cheater" skis good enough to serve as a carver/teaching ski for smaller midwest hills?

Also, my DIN setting on my Spires is 8.5, bindings on these are Fusion EL 10, any reason that could be too little of the binding (I do not think so, but would like to hear opinions from Epic community)?

post #2 of 11
Not enough background info about your skiing experience and youself.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

OK,

47yrs. old

6"1" , 185lbs.

Advanced, not expert, much better than intermediate, feel comfortable on black runs, little intimidated(s;-t my pants scared) on double diamonds in icy conditions. 

Ski anywhere between 10-20 days, last few years numbers are going up, hoping for 25 days this year (10+ Midwest, 10+ Europe, maybe Lake Tahoe area 5 days and/or East Coast and definitely Mt. Bohemia)

Skied Lake Tahoe (favorite area to ski), Utah, Colorado, Europe.

Runs where I had most fun: Honeycomb, Sentinel, Heavenly trees, stuff off Siberia and Granite chairs, Sherwood chair - groomed or not groomed South Face, Arcelle.

Elan Spire 181cm, PRD 12

Fisher something 90 flex

post #4 of 11

Of course......the skis are fine. Plus.....you already have 'em so......???.

 

"Cheater" race skis can can be a myriad of things, some, like the Rossi "Master" GS as an example are darned near what the off the rack U-18 FIS skis are but with a different shape. Others, like the Rossi "Radical Race" skis are not the same thing at all. What you have is probably the latter type and I assume you bought them b/c they were cheap. They will do what you asked in the OP but they will not approach the other class of "cheater" ski.

 

SJ

post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 

SJ, thanks for your response.

Yes, they were super cheap and i am just looking for assurance if I should keep them and give it a try or unload them. Simply, keeping these and getting another pair is not an option (according to my wife). I am limited to two pairs of skis.

post #6 of 11

Exactly what skis are they? I can't tell from your post.

Of course they'll be fine.

Ski swaps are coming Thanksgiving weekend usually too. If you can pick up used slalom skis inexpensively, even women's at 155cm, they'd be fun and a great learning tool.

Maybe skierscott has some left.

post #7 of 11

I like the direction you are going. On a small hill,a set of 13.0 radius SLs are the way to go IMHO.A few years ago I demoed a pair and sking has not been the same since.Nothing beats the tight turns you can get out of a set of SLs.When it comes to carving skills they let you know when you are doing it right and really tell you when you are doing it wrong. I spend a lot of time on small hills and it is hard to beat the amount of turns,exercise and FUN you can have with a nice wicked quick pr. of SLs! I do have a surplus pr.for a very reasonable price.PM if you need details John

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Originally Posted by John B View Post
 

I like the direction you are going. On a small hill,a set of 13.0 radius SLs are the way to go IMHO.A few years ago I demoed a pair and sking has not been the same since.Nothing beats the tight turns you can get out of a set of SLs.When it comes to carving skills they let you know when you are doing it right and really tell you when you are doing it wrong. I spend a lot of time on small hills and it is hard to beat the amount of turns,exercise and FUN you can have with a nice wicked quick pr. of SLs! I do have a surplus pr.for a very reasonable price.PM if you need details John


What he said, except MY 13.0 radius skis are NOT FOR SALE!

 

How small are your hills (vertical feet)?  If >400 ft, the extra 1.5' of radius isn't such a bad thing.

post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for replies/assurances. These are Elan SX Race with EL 10 Fusion system bindings. 

To the previous responses - that's what I thought when I bought them. Very good price - it seems, if I have half as much fun on them as suggested. 

post #10 of 11

Those are great cheaters. Don't worry. Be happy. 

post #11 of 11

I love racing skis when the snow is old and the weather cold.  :)  And the cheater varieties without the strict adherence to FIS equipment rules are great value if you want a high performance groomer ski without a lot of the price hiking gizmos and doodads in the construction. 

 

edit--- Tog makes a good point about women's SL skis.  The intended gender is not really an issue if the intent is to use them in a recreational capacity.  Women's SL's come in 155 (standard) and occasionally 158 as well. 


Edited by herbiebug - 11/13/13 at 9:23pm
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