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Would Line Sick Day 110s complement my Steadfasts?

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Thread Starter 
I am 64, 5'10, 180, level 7.5 (age and indolence are catching up) and have skied for 50+ years. I live and ski in SW Colorado. I currently ski 178 Nordica Steadfasts and love them for where and how I ski but am considering some wider skis for the good deeper days down here.


The Line Sick Day 110 skis sound like a very good complement for powder, both while it lasts as well as later when it gets cut up. Would this be a reasonable choice? I like lighter, lively skis with good edge grip when it packs out but want a wider ski for powder days. Could I go up to a 186 with a SD 110 or should I stay with their 179?
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I'm a dedicated Line skier.  I've got 100+ days on the prophet 100 and last year put over 100 days on the Influence 105's.  I don't like the idea of having to choose from 3 different skis depending on conditions.  I ski at Fernie Alpine Resort in BC, Canada.  Our mountain boasts the base village being 5 minutes from downtown, but that comes with a price - the altitude at the base is only about 3500 ft, so coming down from almost 7000 feet means you will ski 3 distinct transition zones on any given day: deep dry powder on the top third, thicker chop in the middle, and the bottom third can be slushy, stiff, hard pack and groomed.  Don't get me wrong - we have lots of days where the snow is fantastic right from top to bottom, but the first description is just as common.  What I liked about both Line skis is that they have enough stiffness and sidecut to ski hard pack really well when needed, were great in chopped up stuff because they skied 'through' it, not over top of it, and had enough width to be a really good performing powder ski.  I liked the Influence better because the early rise tip was significantly noticeable in terms of initiating turns.  Unlike many who posted about the Influence 105, I didn't find it a slow or stiff ski at all.  It's not nimble like a carver, but I ski at a mountain renowned for it's powder and tree skiing - nimble takes on a different meaning and the Lines mentioned were nimble in their own way.  I bought the Sick Day 110 for this year and can't wait to try it out.  I'm expecting it to be solid on hard pack, dependable in chop, and great in powder, just like all my other Line skis - I hope I'm right.  Everyone will tell you their ski is the best ski - I'm no different.  I skied the Nordica Enforcer, and before that the whole line of Volkl All Mountain skis.  So far Line wins the race for a 'do it all one ski in the quiver' ski - just sayin'.

post #3 of 12
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Originally Posted by FatChance .

The Line Sick Day 110 skis sound like a very good complement for powder, both while it lasts as well as later when it gets cut up. Would this be a reasonable choice? I like lighter, lively skis with good edge grip when it packs out but want a wider ski for powder days. Could I go up to a 186 with a SD 110 or should I stay with their 179?

Based on your stats and advice received from my ski shop, along with my experience, I would not go up to a 186 - 179 will be just fine because the Sick day, like the other Line skis, has early rise, but the tail has normal camber and won't wash out at a shorter length.

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Originally Posted by skidel View Post
 

Everyone will tell you their ski is the best ski - I'm no different. 

. . . . I won't.  What I ski, or happen to like, is orthogonal to the OP's question.

 

FC, If you are skiing Steadfasts at 178, and are reasonably strong you probably want the Sick Day 110 at 186.  To answer your question, imo, yes, you can go up in length easily on the Sick Day.  Especially if it is a more dedicated powder day ski.  If we were talking the Prophet Series, or the Influence Series, I'd say 179, but the Sick Days ski super short, like the other Eric Pollard-designed Lines (Opus, Bacon).  A 179 Sick Day would feel like the Steadfast in 170ish.  Or the low 170s version of the Prophet or Influence.  If you are stuck between sizes, you might want to demo both.  I am about your size, I own the P100 in 179 and I'd ski 179 in the Influence 105 and 186 in the Sick Day series (and 184 for the Bacon).

 

Skidel, have you actually demo'd the Sick Day (or the Bacons?)?  The Sick Day feels nothing remotely like the Prophet 100 or Influence 105.  It feels more like a directional Sir Francis Bacon.  The fact that you liked the Prophet/Influence Series has very little predictive value with respect to the SD series.  Totally different layuyp, totally different shape, totally different snow feel.  Totally different character. The only thing similar is the name on the topsheet.  You may like it, because it is a cool ski. . . one of my main ski partners bought it on the spot out of demo days last spring.  Or you may not, considering that you seem to favor solid, strong skis with metal.  I do think that the SD 110 would be a great ski for a place like Fernie, so you will probably like it . . . but not for the same reasons that you like the Influence.

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Originally Posted by LewyM View Post
 

. Or you may not, considering that you seem to favor solid, strong skis with metal.  I do think that the SD 110 would be a great ski for a place like Fernie, so you will probably like it . . . but not for the same reasons that you like the Influence.

Thanks for the feedback.  The Influence 105's were on sale all last summer for ridiculously low prices (discontinued ski) and I was tempted, but I tend to ski a ski for about 120 days (one season) then try something new ie. P100, Influence 105, Sick Day.  The Sick Days are my 'something new'.  I hope I didn't make the wrong choice.  I'm OK with something more playful, but I have a bad knee that absolutely needs a ski with a tail that doesn't wash out - that's why I don't tend towards fully rockered skis.  If I've made a mistake, someone will, I'm sure, love to take the Sick Days off my hands.  I'm relying on all Line skis with a fair amount of side cut to feel different, but have a similar basic quality - good edge hold coming out of chop onto groomers.  I can get used to all other differences.

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This may or may not be helpful but my daily driver is the Nordica Steadfast and I really like it.  I spent three days last season demoing skis at Snowbasin and Big Sky.  There were definitely some fun skis but the two skis that stood out were the Fire Arrow 84 EDT and the Atomic Ritual.  I seriously thought about replacing my Steadfasts with the FA 84 but ultimately decided against it but for a wider ski, I loved the Atomics and did buy a pair.  They have tip and tail rocker plus camber and they're 103mm.  I skied them in the trees at Big Sky, in what powder we were able to find and on the groomers.  They feel light and they're very responsive.  To me they felt similar to the Steadfasts except a bit softer.  They're a bit narrower than what you're considering but 7mm is not a huge difference.  I have very limited experience with Line skis, tried the Prophet 90 and didn't like it, so I can't make any valid comparisons.  

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Where are you going to be skiing mostly?  Wolf Creek?  Purgatory?  Elsewhere? 

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
I ski at Purg, Telluride, Wolf Creek and Taos the most, in that order. I want a ski for where I ski, not where I might ski.


At this point in the season and not having a chance to demo yet, I am focusing on the Line SD 110 and Soul 7 for my deeper snow skis. They both seem like a good fit for where and how I ski and a big enough difference in width over the Steadfasts to offer a significant alternative while maintaining a similar early rise or minimally rockered, no metal construction.
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Soul 7 is my daily driver.  Sick Day 125 for 10"+ days.  I also have a 175 Enduro  XT800 for rippin' on groomers and when off piste is no bueno.  5' 10" 185 lbs. and I live and ski in CO.

 

Sick Day 110 was on my short list.  Demoed both and I like the Soul 7 a little better.  Soul 7 has a rounder flex, slightly softer flex, and feels lighter on the foot.  Soul 7 carves really well and has that shorter feel on firm snow typical of the type of design but still solid which is not always typical.  Sick Day 110 has a slightly stiffer progressive directional flex and a more traditional directional ski feel when carving on firmer snow.  In pow and soft snow the differences were more subtle.  Soul 7 wins the looser/smeary/buttery game.  Sick Day 110 has a more pronounce tail and it takes a more delicate touch to get it to smear/butter turns but its still pretty quick.  Both float really well, feel solid under foot, and motor thru tracked up snow.  Haven't skied either in really nasty variable and/or cruddy snow.  I think both have a reasonable top end but wouldn't be my first choice for skiing at mach looney speeds down the fall line.

 

As for length I understand why you are thinking shorter based on where you log most of your ski days.  I think you would be fine but note that I felt both models ski shorter than their actually length and it was more pronounced the softer/deeper the snow was.  Very manageable in their longer lengths.

 

I would put the Super 7 and the Automatic on your demo list as well.  These are my 2 favorite skis in that 115'ish category that I have demoed.  A little fatter than you might be thinking but still light and very manageable in all kind of conditions.  You would give up a little bit of daily driver for more float, stabiltiy, and surfier feel.

 

Ultimately you should try to demo.  I have sometimes been very surprised by what I actually liked versus what I thought I might like before a demo.  Sick Day 125 as an example.  Prior to demoing, the Squad 7 or Carbon Megawatt is what I thought I wanted.  Previously owned a Hell & Back which I bought without demoing and it didn't exactly blow my skirt up.  Demoed a bunch of 90-100mm stuff last year.  Bonafide, Cham 97, Prophet 90/98, Mantra, Bridge, FX 94,......  They had to twist my arm to get on the Enduro.  Not even close to what I was thinking and it ended up being my favorite.

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Rug, thank you and everyone else for the informative posts. Very much appreciated.


I suppose it would be too much to hope that my top choices might be found in a Black Friday sale so will see what demoing might lead me to.
Edited by FatChance - 11/23/13 at 6:24pm
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by FatChance View Post

The Line Sick Day 110 skis sound like a very good complement for powder, both while it lasts as well as later when it gets cut up. Would this be a reasonable choice? I like lighter, lively skis with good edge grip when it packs out but want a wider ski for powder days. Could I go up to a 186 with a SD 110 or should I stay with their 179?

 

What you are looking for (and mentioning black friday deals) sounds like a Bluehouse Maestro to me. Light, playful, smeary, with surprising edge hold even on very hard stuff. There are several reviews of BH fans here on the boards and on TGR.

 

http://www.skinet.com/ski/gear/bluehouse-maestro-2013

 

Last year's ski is $270 shipped in a 189, which I would consider a shade on the long side, but not terribly so in a ski with this much of a rocker profile. If you think it is too long, current year models are $500, but they do Facebook deals all the time which should get this to $450 shipped

Last year- http://www.factorydirectskis.com/discount-skis/discount-ski-maestro-panda-189.html

This year- http://bluehouseskis.com/snow-skis/maestro-paul-bunyan.html

 

Edit- given that BH sizes this ski in a 178 and a 189, I would go with the 189.

Here is one of several BH threads. http://www.epicski.com/t/123082/bluehouse-skis

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Last year's maestro is on sale for $249 shipped this weekend.

 

http://www.factorydirectskis.com/discount-skis/discount-ski-maestro-panda-189.html

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