Originally Posted by Philpug
Bringing ski brands like Kastle and Stockli in the suggestion list, neither of which are usually considered "affordable" or twin tips that are either symmetrical nor "frontside" biased...
Boy, I guess I've been told. Bad enough I mentioned a competitive bump ski that I hadn't skied, just watched our club freestylers on, but now I've brought unaffordable non-frontside biased skis into the mix.
Uh, Phil, for the record, you should get out more. Older new Stockli Rotors are available for under $500 on fleabay right now, Skiershop has been selling them for under $400, and a number of review sites not named Start Haus agree with me (I've owned two) that they bring an unsual combination of carving chops and bump/light soft snow performance to the table. Real Skiers, for instance, which isn't known to be forgiving toward pretend carvers, gives them all 4's and above, including for (wait for it), "carving." I liked mine on everything from glare ice to serious sidebounds bumps. They aren't super stable at real speed, and they don't carve as well as a dedicated carver. But they sure mix it up nicely. YMMV, but I know what I did with mine...
Kastles also aren't always financially unapproachable; plenty of MX70's and LX82's out there at bargain prices. In fact, depending on where you look and who you talk to, FX84's can be had for the same price as many "non-premium" skis right now. So unclear what "affordable" means. As cheap as a (wait for it) Nordica blem or Blizzard? Prolly not. So I guess that ends the matter, huh?
As far as twins that are symmetrical and therefore unwise for the frontside, a whole slew of reviewers, as well as folks I know who own them, would disagree. Let's review: 1) Many twins are really really nice in bumps and trees. Go argue with Josh about it if you want to. He might also allow that many can be carved nicely if you know how to. 2) Skis like Dead Moneys or various Armadas are not symmetrical, and some are known for their comparative grip relative to other park skis. You just have to shop around and listen/read. 3) Symmetrical skis like Aces or Colby XX's are being used routinely all over the east by guys under the age of 40, and unless my eyes are getting fooled, they carve them pretty nicely. Various review sites not named Start Haus concur. But hey, what do freestylers know? None of them know how to ski, right? And I haven't skied some of these, too. Besides, worst of all, I tried to think outside the SH box for the OP. BAD DOG!!