Originally Posted by ScotsSkier
Nay break, you are missing the point. Most all terrain tires are a lot less capable in snow. Note my reference to gravel (a/t) tires being crappy in snow on my. Rally car. Why run something that is a compromise instead of ten real thing? Kinda like texans wondering why their pick up trucks fall off the road when it rains!
Not missing the point. Wearing out "real tires" designed for packed/ice conditions in a supercharged truck on dry pavement when your stated problem is deeper snow is waste of money territory.
All tires are a compromise - tires are very similar to skis in flex patterns and in other ways. Funny how we can tell how they work purely by the marketing and how they look
- not all models within a tire class have the same characteristics. If ice/icy conditions are not your primary problem to solve, then an ice carver isn't the best recommendation.
It may be worth considering the reason that there are no aggressive "real winter tires" for trucks. You can either believe that is because a tire that has problems with an inch of slush fits all purposes, or because those tires are marketed as all around traction tires and therefore don't make a 'winter' distinction.
You do need to know what you are looking for. Plenty of all terrain tires are awful in snow as they are just glorified all season tires designed for long tread life. Some are in the middle like the BFG AT ko - a tire that is biased to tread life but still bears the snowflake symbol (and no better indictment of the low standard of that symbol IMO/E). The tires I posted above are an entire class better. Soft compounds are not the exclusive domain of car tires and high traction designs are not the exclusive domain of 'winter' tires.
You look at my tires and people think I am nuts. What they don't get is that big tire has only a 9.1" tread contact width (that's about a 235mm) in dry or packed conditions and the lug spacing creates a higher pressure contact patch that is easily seen on hardpack in terms of the bite it creates - same argument as running a narrower tire without the disadvantages in deeper conditions. The rest of that tread, 13" wide at the center section, is available in deeper snow and is designed to be aired down for severe conditions where you want to maximize tread contact. Add to this a large uninterrupted center groove for excellent lateral traction and this is the most versatile winter tire I have been around, and by a good margin. You won't see me blowing by you in bad conditions - the downside of this type of traction is the tires can be grabby - traction doesn't have to be about speed, although with a SC you may disagree
This is why Colorado's use of mag chloride pisses me off so much - they are turning snow into ice and now you have to start thinking about trading down deep snow capability for ice capability. Good thing Hankook makes a studdable 37