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Foot measures 241 x 104.9 wide. Which size boot?

post #1 of 9
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Which size range as I know that boots will vary between mfg.

 

Would a 104.9 wide mean a boot that has a 106 last?

 

Going to try and give my local ski shop boot fitter a try vs. out of town SureFoot but want to be in the ballpark on the initial boot size.

post #2 of 9

it doesn't quite work as simply as that, firstly the 104mm last or 106mm last that you see published on boots (for the most part) is in a size 26/26.5 so as the size goes down it gets narrower, up it gets wider, then you need to consider toe box shape, a 104mm boot with a really square toe box will feel wider than a 106mm if the toe box is a bit pointy and the toes get compressed

 

after that you have to look at the compression of soft tissue, fine to cup it and hold it snug in a boot (a footbed may make your foot a bit narrower if there is some spread when you bear weight) BUT YOU DO NOT WANT TO COMPRESS THE BONE STRUCTURE

 

and finally is the heel wide or narrow? most wider boots have a wide heel, what you need to consider is getting the boot which fits the back of the foot (heel/ankle/midfoot region) and getting it stretched out at the forefoot

 

my money would be with the local boot fitter rather than the chain, but if you tell us where you are someone may be able to recommend a good fitter near by

post #3 of 9

Little flippers don't have to be housed in big caves.  Boots can start out as 98 and still become 104.  You have to find someone who can look at the entire project, volume around ankle, over instep, etc and decide where to start.

 

Lou

post #4 of 9
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The ski shop said I have a normal heel size. They recommended the Tecnica 2 120HVl which does come in a 24.5 length.  They felt this was a performance boot pretty much made for my foot size.  Any tweaking would be minimal.  After that they recommended Tecnica Cochise. They felt Tecnica as a line came with a higher arch volume overall which a shorter foot would benefit from

 

But no 24.5's in their stock and they said most of the boots for the year have shipped.  They could ask rep to find some but if/when and how well it worked could be problematic, felt they could make it work but even those might require significant extra costs, custom foot beds, some boot modification, maybe even a new liner.

 

Previous boots were SureFoots, served me well for 5-7 years so I'm going custom again, going more local with and using a Strolz which is similar process to SureFoots with foam in liners, custom beds etc.  Probably a bit more custom than SureFoot as Strolzs makes the boots and tries to size them as close as possible where Surefoot takes off the shelf brands and customizes them.  Plus who you get in the SureFoot shop can be problematic.  SureFoot will fix anything with no limits but really should not have to if done right and fixes require long trips to Sun Valley, Whistler or PC.

 

Expensive as SureFoot but 5-7 years of comfortable skiing, kind of a bargain.

post #5 of 9

You might consider one of the heat moldable shell boots made by Fischer or Salomon---the toe box in the Salomon is roomy and the shell could

be heat molded to fit around you forefoot and yet snugly hold your heels.

 

mike

post #6 of 9
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Ski shop thought the Salomon might not be high enough over the arch in the shorter size 24.5 and end of the day $600 boot, $200 bed, $200 heater...you may as well go fully custom.  How much are you really saving over the 5-7 year life of a great fitting boot?

 

Ski shop was willing to try on Salomon and Tecnica but enough caveats to make me think I'd get a better fit going custom from the beginning vs trying to get them to tweak a production boot.

post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 

Ski shop thought the Salomon might not be high enough over the arch in the shorter size 24.5 and end of the day $600 boot, $200 bed, $200 heater...you may as well go fully custom.  How much are you really saving over the 5-7 year life of a great fitting boot?

 

Ski shop was willing to try on Salomon and Tecnica but enough caveats to make me think I'd get a better fit going custom from the beginning vs trying to get them to tweak a production boot.

Highlighted quote is unimportant----if you consider the heat moldable shell will reshape over the instep when it is molded.

 

Staying warm is more a matter of good circulation and innervation---and a good sock---- then, perhaps the heater would not be needed.

 

just trying to make suggestions which is what, I think, your original post asked for.

 

mike


Edited by miketsc - 11/13/13 at 7:33am
post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post
 

Highlighted quote is unimportant----if you consider the heat moldable shell will reshape over the instep when it is molded.

 

Staying warm is more a matter of good circulation and innervation---and a good sock---- then, perhaps the heater would not be needed.

 

just trying to make suggestions which is what, I think, your original post asked for.

 

mike


Maybe not as ski shop said it is done with the buckles closed so most of the heat molding is done in the width which is what Salomon advertises, variable width.   They felt it was better to work with a boot made to the size (Tecnica 106 width with the high volume) vs. the Salomon and trying to mold it especially since they felt the Salomon was less volume to start with.  Choice would have come down to Tecnica, SureFoot or Strolz.  Strolz seemed a bit more custom than Surefoot so I went with that plus it was local. All about the same price when everything is done.   News at 11.

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Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post
 


Maybe not as ski shop said it is done with the buckles closed so most of the heat molding is done in the width which is what Salomon advertises, variable width.   They felt it was better to work with a boot made to the size (Tecnica 106 width with the high volume) vs. the Salomon and trying to mold it especially since they felt the Salomon was less volume to start with.  Choice would have come down to Tecnica, SureFoot or Strolz.  Strolz seemed a bit more custom than Surefoot so I went with that plus it was local. All about the same price when everything is done.   News at 11.

I highlighted an area in your post:     Not so--- we have added padding to the instep of the customers feet and had the shell stretch both in width and instep height, worked great and fit like a glove.

 

mike

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