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Vermont has more ski areas than Wyoming has people.
Lol. Vermont barely has more people that Wyoming has people. WY is 50th in population, VT is 49th.

 

Totally true. But, as Sibhusky points out indirectly, you can't do a quick weekend jaunt in your car from LA to Jackson Hole. You CAN do that - and thousands of people do - between NYC and Killington.

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I really still think it all boils down to # of skiers looking to ski versus skiable acres and capacity NOT TO accommodate those skiers that drives up pass prices on the east coast versus the vast western areas.  Granted, you can make a day trip from Denver or SLC to several different options, but those options totally trump the eastern alternatives in terms of capacity.

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Well, believe it or not, demand in the East is much higher than it is out West. The Northeast has far, far more people than the Mountain West. More people translates to more skiers, and all those dedicated skiers are buying passes. With demand so high, Eastern mountains can continue to charge higher season pass prices, and still sell their expected quotas each year. Out west, you have a much smaller population. Granted, a higher proportion of them are likely skiers, but it is still a smaller population overall. It doesn't make any sense for mountains to limit the supply of season tickets, either. So with high supply and lower relative demand, prices are lower.

This makes sense to me. Supply and demand. Also, IME, there are some pretty nice deals back here if you pay attention and get your pass along about May. 

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Saddleback full-price day pass (Saturdays and holidays): $59; (non-holiday Sundays and weekdays) $49. This is for one of the higher, snowier hills in the east. Very reasonable, going on cheap.

 

Saddleback season pass: $799. Very expensive. Exact opposite of what you see at Vail, for example, with high day tickets and cheap season passes. 

 

When I consider that I often get discounts on day tickets via a variety of channels and programs, I figure that I would have to ski 15 - 20 days to recoup the price of a season pass. I don't ski that many days there, for several reasons, so it's day tix for me.

 

I was discussing this with friends last night before our deafness acquisition session at the new TGR movie. Couple of things we were guessing about:

  • Has management learned that people who are going to ski a ton of days at Saddleback are going to ski a ton of days at Saddleback no matter what, and are willing and able pay for the privilege? I.e., they're not about to defect to the dark side with Boyne? (You've heard of "bread and circus," right? Well, this is Loaf and River.)
  • Has management learned that they're prone to make money on day ticket customers' overall purchases, and lose money on pass holders' overall purchases (or lack thereof)?
  • If so, why make passes so expensive that even brown-bag day trippers like me will buy day passes rather than season tickets? I'd think that if they're losing money on me when I buy an expensive season pass, they'd lose even more money on me when pricing policies encourage me to buy cheap day tickets rather than a pass.

 

My suggestion is that the retro areas of northern New England get together and offer a "bearded grouch" pass, that would be good at - say - Saddleback, Mt. Abram, Wildcat, Cannon, Burke, Mad River, Middlebury Snow Bowl, Crotched, and Magic. (I'm sure folks could name others that fit this theme.)  If I could buy that for, say, $550, I'd definitely do it.

That would be a great pass for someone who lives in Northern N.H. any place else as they say "you can't get there from here". I would love to get over to Saddleback and ski it but it's almost 6 hours from me. Just no way to go west to east or east/west  in this region (upper New England)

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That would be a great pass for someone who lives in Northern N.H. any place else as they say "you can't get there from here". I would love to get over to Saddleback and ski it but it's almost 6 hours from me. Just no way to go west to east or east/west  in this region (upper New England)

 

I'm in. On that list, you can assume Wildcat and Crotched would not participate since they are owned by Peak Resorts, though they are both already on the Granite Pass with Attitash which sells for about that price. Right now that pass is the closest thing out there.

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