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Have you seen this vice?

post #1 of 20
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I just wonder what it is. I could steal it on eBay for about $15, but I've never seen it before and Google yields nothing helpful. The auction ends in 40 minutes, but I figured what the heck, maybe someone would recognize it.


post #2 of 20

hold the waist of the ski still (middle vice)
kinda like this

post #3 of 20
Looks a bit old. Do they say how wide it opens? Might not accommodate the newer, wider skis. Also looks like it COULD be plastic and have ratchets to adjust the width rather than continuous adjustment. Questions to ask.
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Looks a bit old. Do they say how wide it opens? Might not accommodate the newer, wider skis. Also looks like it COULD be plastic and have ratchets to adjust the width rather than continuous adjustment. Questions to ask.
I just shot off some questions because I know she's watching the auction. I assumed it was metal, but I'm suspicious about the mechanism myself; at best, that little lever twists. I'm not sure how well a ratcheting vise would work on a ski. For something this cheap I haven't worried about width because even the smallest vise I've seen will take the base of my heel plate.
post #5 of 20
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It's actually no biggie, because I just bought these for $35 shipped:
post #6 of 20
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Meh, I let it go for 10.00. Then I realized that I'll have to use one of the pair I bought as a center vise because it only opens to 100mm. Which is fine; tip and tail supports are easy to improvise.
post #7 of 20

litterbug, where did you get those nice red vises from? 

post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post

litterbug, where did you get those nice red vises from? 
eBay. I'm sad to say that a pair just like them went for a buy-it-now price of $55 early this morning. I've been lurking this past week, hoping someone would make my low-rent scheme possible. Until a few days ago it was mostly retailers their normal prices, but now more used gear's popping up, along with new buyers. I just lucked onto my auction as the only bidder, placing my bid a few seconds before it ended. I'm an evil, selfish person, so I use a sniping app so I can go about my business and find out later whether I won. devil.gif

Here are some "Toko Ski Tuning Table Clamps" with 4 days to go and a few silly early bidders nibbling at them. And here's a "Vintage 80's Swix Ski Vise Set" (vintage on eBay usually means "worn out," but these look fine to me) ending tomorrow morning that's now at $56. That seller says the top edge of the jaw opens to about 100mm, the lower to 63mm. There's also a Jaws of the Beast set with a buy-it-now of $75.

ETA that this morning's pair of Ski Man vises were new in the wrapper. frown.gif
post #9 of 20

d'oh

post #10 of 20
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Did you see my PM?
post #11 of 20

yeah... too expensive :( 

post #12 of 20

My workbench has these roller handles I can use to open it up in half, and clamp something in the middle. Any reason I can't/shouldn't clamp a ski into the middle to work on it?

post #13 of 20

two piece vises are worthless if you do more than one ski tune a year.  otherwise you want a 3-piece vise.

 

a vise is arguably, one of the top 3 tools in a tuners arsenal.  dont cheap out on it

 

ski-man - is the oem for vises produced in their house name, as well - swix, toko, holmenkol.  the branded versions have slight minor differences (different casts, same function).  three piece vises with adjustable ends, sell in canada for a retail average $225 +plus tax


Edited by Chenzo - 11/6/13 at 9:38pm
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post

My workbench has these roller handles I can use to open it up in half, and clamp something in the middle. Any reason I can't/shouldn't clamp a ski into the middle to work on it?
Typically the center vise pulls the ski's waist downward, and those adjustable supports push the tip and tail upward so the ski is under tension (flexion?) and stays still when you vigorously scrape and brush its length. Tie your toepiece to a cleat or hook attached to the bench, and prop the tip and tail up on wood blocks, and you can put your dough into the rest of your kit. It's not as elegant or quite as bombproof as a three piece set, but it works just fine.

I'll PM you though, because I really only need one vise.
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Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

a vise is arguably, one of the top 3 tools in a tuners arsenal.  dont cheap out on it
One would prefer not to, but one can't home-build dedicated edge beveling tools, files, stones, or waxing irons. I can't, anyway. biggrin.gif Benches and vises, on the other hand--
post #15 of 20
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One would prefer not to, but one can't home-build dedicated edge beveling tools, files, stones, or waxing irons. I can't, anyway. biggrin.gif Benches and vises, on the other hand--

I actually thought about the iron, finding a big ol block of brass and screw onto the base of a cloth iron, the massive thermal sink would probably make it more temperature stable than all but the most expensive ski irons.
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post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by litterbug View Post

One would prefer not to, but one can't home-build dedicated edge beveling tools, files, stones, or waxing irons. I can't, anyway. biggrin.gif Benches and vises, on the other hand--

Like I said, its arguable.  I agree that one could build a good vise, but unless it is a very elaborate design, it will not perform as well as a manufactured model.  For me, having a secure ski to work on is paramount to the tune I am putting on it.  And the ability to change from side edge config to base edge quickly is very important.  You can cheap out on many pieces of tuning equipment.  For example at any random dollar store here in Canada, you can buy - file brushes, scotchbrite pads, spring clamps, tuning gloves(never trust a tuner that wears gloves-haha),shitty files, and a sureform tool to name a few, for a fraction of the price that a box hardware store/ski shop would sell for.

 

Ebay will have some good deals, but they go fast, and you will need a sniping app.  The best deals on the interweb for tuning gear is found on craigslist (U.S.)  and kijiji (Canada).   I just bought an almost new toko w/c vise for $25 off kijiji.

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
 

How about this one?

 

http://www.voile.com/voile-ski-accessories/voile-ski-snowboard-tuning-tree.html

Best, cheapest snowboard vise.  Terrible for skis.  I have a more robust model made by RED (burton).  

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

Like I said, its arguable.  I agree that one could build a good vise, but unless it is a very elaborate design, it will not perform as well as a manufactured model.
I can't argue with that statement at all, but the question for people like me and Metaphor isn't how to replicate the bells and whistles of a 3 piece vise, but how to get by without one.

Over the past month I've seen exactly one listing for tuning or waxing gear on Craigslist, and only a smattering in the classifieds. I hadn't heard of kijiji (there's nothing there either), and there's probably some other classifieds site I don't know about, but for now it's just me and myibidder sniping software. Ebay is worth it if I'm paying attention, but I'm going to tire of it soon because it takes a certain amount of obsessiveness to check for new listings twice daily and make sure that Amazon or retail sites don't charge less (they often do), and track auctions. All I really need at this point is side tuning equipment and an iron, although I'm still keeping an eye out for a rare deal like your $25 Toko set.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by litterbug View Post


Over the past month I've seen exactly one listing for tuning or waxing gear on Craigslist, and only a smattering in the classifieds. I hadn't heard of kijiji 

Try these search engine sites.  I find when dealing with purchasing an item (long-distance) the buyer has to trust the seller (pre-payment).

 

 

http://zoomthelist.com/  U.S.

 

http://kijigeek.com/  Canada

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