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post #31 of 50
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Yes, by all means, you needn't have binding too tight in the trauma park; it's a lot easier to ski with a broken collar bone, wrist, or rib, than with a broken leg or torn ACL.


I see a lot of those as well!  I did my ribs three years ago.  Ouch!  Not in Park though.

post #32 of 50

My legs are so strong my skis break before my bones and muscles do.  I put the DIN on max always.

post #33 of 50
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My legs are so strong my skis break before my bones and muscles do.  I put the DIN on max always.


This one is for you Core2.   I see this stuff quite a bit, but had the cam handy this time.

 

 

 

BTW, that's one reason your stuff breaks!  Bindings too tight!  :beercheer:

post #34 of 50

Cheap adz skis with no steel top layer :nono:;).

post #35 of 50
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Cheap adz skis with no steel top layer :nono:;).


Parkies like them light!  That guy is a fantastic skier.  He can run an entire trail switch at over 50 mph.  Just insane!  (Trivia)

post #36 of 50
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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


^^^  I never noticed this one.  It was not a set up.  I film boo coo hours in Park.  I think I did 45 hours of video last season.  Who the hell would do that for fun is beyond me for sure.

post #37 of 50
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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


^^^  I never noticed this one.  It was not a set up.  I film boo coo hours in Park.  I think I did 45 hours of video last season.  Who the hell would do that for fun is beyond me for sure.


I can't see why anyone would do that at all, but I'll take your word for it that it wasn't a set up.  Rentals set at type I then?

 

Regardless, you could have spent that 45 hours skiing:eek.  Thanks for the videos though.:)

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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


^^^  I never noticed this one.  It was not a set up.  I film boo coo hours in Park.  I think I did 45 hours of video last season.  Who the hell would do that for fun is beyond me for sure.


I can't see why anyone would do that at all, but I'll take your word for it that it wasn't a set up.  Rentals set at type I then?

 

Regardless, you could have spent that 45 hours skiing:eek.  Thanks for the videos though.:)


No I can't ski too much anyway.  I only ski so much everyday.  Filming gives me a break.  Unless it is a blizzard or some really bad weather I'm up there until I go back to work mid April.  Then I just do weekends to finish.  Because I have to work I only get 130 to 140 days each season.    Oh yea, the guys were father & son team.   They ski at Hoodoo.  They came to Bachelor which is not there normal Mt. and just did not check it before they wrecked it.  Actually I filmed more that the 45 as that was just parks.  I also covered a few special events.  Like our pond skim, Jerry Lopez Big Wave Challenge, and more.  Take it easy!

post #39 of 50
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Ski season is or will soon be starting in the western USA.  Don't forget to Look Before You Leap!

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post #41 of 50
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Tanner looked a lot.  Then got hurt bad.  I hate to see this one.  Seen it before.  Nice he is still working it.  Saw him at Bachelor last season.

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Tanner looked a lot.  Then got hurt bad.  I hate to see this one.  Seen it before.  Nice he is still working it.  Saw him at Bachelor last season.

 

Yeah I had meant to post even looking doesn't help sometimes LOL.  Tanner is an animal.

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Tanner looked a lot.  Then got hurt bad.  I hate to see this one.  Seen it before.  Nice he is still working it.  Saw him at Bachelor last season.

 

Yeah I had meant to post even looking doesn't help sometimes LOL.  Tanner is an animal.


To say the least he is.  I did some B-rate video of him at the Sammy C. event at Bachelor way after that accident.

post #44 of 50
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The double eject was a classic case of taking that kind of jump without enough speed.  Faster and you clear the flat and land on the down-slope.  Too slow and you hit the flat and skip or splat, and possibly double eject.  I believe this type of crash is quite common because novices are afraid so they hit the jump slowly thinking it is safer, when in fact just the opposite is true with a gap jump.  I remember my first time off the gelande jump at Snowbowl in Missoula.  There was about 25 feet of flat from the 6 foot high take off ramp to a very steep long drop landing area. Cautious first timers (like me) would invariably hit it too slow, land on the flat right at the top of the drop going about 40 mph and skip straight out into space instead of contouring down the slope for landing.  It made for an unexpected 30 foot free fall, but at least the landing was steep so you would slide instead of splat.  It only took one time to  learn my lesson about gap jumps the hard way.


You said what I was going to say.

post #45 of 50

How many times have we flown off of some cliff or drop off not knowing we were going to do it? 

post #46 of 50
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How many times have we flown off of some cliff or drop off not knowing we were going to do it? 


Hope not too many!   The father and son team did not check it!  There was a sign that said "Caution Drop!"  I guess they did not read it.  It was day glow orange and there was two of them!

post #47 of 50
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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


Well I guess I never answered this comment.  This was not deliberate in anyway whatsoever.  It just happened.  I filmed that drop for a while that day.  Then made this edit from the long video to make the point.  The snowboarder was smart.  The father & son team.....no so smart.   I saw them a few weeks later at their normal ski place (Hoodoo) and talked to them.  They were okay.  Both still walking!  Could have been much worse in which case I would not have made the edit.  I don't like to see folks getting injured.

post #48 of 50
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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


^^^  I never noticed this one.  It was not a set up.  I film boo coo hours in Park.  I think I did 45 hours of video last season.  Who the hell would do that for fun is beyond me for sure.


Oh, my mistake.  Now I see I addressed this one prior.

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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


^^^  I never noticed this one.  It was not a set up.  I film boo coo hours in Park.  I think I did 45 hours of video last season.  Who the hell would do that for fun is beyond me for sure.


Oh, my mistake.  Now I see I addressed this one prior.


All good, it allows/reminds/prompts  me to make further comment.

I usually adjust my bindings at a release setting corresponding to DIN chart value of about 3+, which so far has worked well for me, keeping me in when needed and releasing without breaking my legs.  Often times an unintended release would put me off the trail with a very high likelihood of impacting a big tree at 50 mph.   I've occasionally swung through the trauma park when it's not crowded (for the jumps), and have landed the occasional jump badly, so badly in fact that I was worried about the health of my tibias (so far only bruised 'em).

 

If I were to be skiing exclusively park for a while, landing jumps and not requiring high speed mandatory must turn now turns in rough conditions, I would set my bindings lower, probably between 2 and 3 on the DIN chart.

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It looks deliberate; they probably lowered the DIN just so they could make the clip without danger to their knees.


^^^  I never noticed this one.  It was not a set up.  I film boo coo hours in Park.  I think I did 45 hours of video last season.  Who the hell would do that for fun is beyond me for sure.


Oh, my mistake.  Now I see I addressed this one prior.


All good, it allows/reminds/prompts  me to make further comment.

I usually adjust my bindings at a release setting corresponding to DIN chart value of about 3+, which so far has worked well for me, keeping me in when needed and releasing without breaking my legs.  Often times an unintended release would put me off the trail with a very high likelihood of impacting a big tree at 50 mph.   I've occasionally swung through the trauma park when it's not crowded (for the jumps), and have landed the occasional jump badly, so badly in fact that I was worried about the health of my tibias (so far only bruised 'em).

 

If I were to be skiing exclusively park for a while, landing jumps and not requiring high speed mandatory must turn now turns in rough conditions, I would set my bindings lower, probably between 2 and 3 on the DIN chart.


Totally hear you.  The nose and tail "butter" deal is big with the kids.  So one day my younger friend was going up on his tips just standing around.  I said hey, check it out, I can do that too.  My first try was not high enough.  My second try I double ejected and fell on my face.  It was funny as all get out.  The thing is those park kids are setting way too high to do those moves.  I see way to many getting hauled out every season.  I always say don't set them too high!  Then again I already have a compromised knee and don't want that situation ever again.  As far as toward a tree momentum goes, I just don't do that anymore.  I'm too scared.  Give me some open area and I will still go for it!  Be good Ghost!

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