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Are my boots too big?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

I bought new ski boots in 2011, Salomon Instinct 90 CS. They always fitted quite snug, it took a few days to get comfortable in them, but they're a great fit. The only thing is, my toes don't touch the front of the boot (when standing straight). My big toes are half a centimeter longer than my second toes, which makes it hard to size the boot. I didn't get a chance to try the smaller size, but with other brands (Dalbello, Nordica) I felt my big toe hurt too much and I had to try a size up.

 

- Is it possible a Salomon shell 25 is bigger than a 25 from another brand? 

 

- When I ski I'm not moving in my boots, I also thought about putting something (or some fabric) in the front of the boot, could that be a solution? What is the bad thing about having room in the front of the boot, when there's no movement whatsoever, and I'm not having cold feet?

post #2 of 12

Karlyboogy,

 

What does your foot measure in length in centimeters?

 

Would you describe it as high or low volume?

 

http://epicski.onthesnow.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

click on and read the above article and perform a "Shell check" in the boots you now have to determine if 25.0 is the right size for you.

 

Yes your toes will feel a good bit of pressure in a boot liner that will fit when it breaks in.

 

Without seeing your feet it is impossible to tell you what might fit---which is a polite way of suggesting you go see a "qualified" boot fitter,

 

(not a boot seller)

 

mike

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

My feet are 24,3 centimeters, the boots are 25.5. My feet are quite narrow and I've got a low arch. I'm really happy with the way they ski. What's the downside of having room in the front?

post #4 of 12
If you have always skied in that size boot,then I doubt you have ever experieced real control.
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 

I made a mistake while describing my feet, I said quite narrow, but I meant a bit narrow. I think they fit snugly, the first few days they really had to set in and weren't comfortable yet. Now I have to use the buckles more. I think there will be better boots for me out there, but I'm really happy with the boots liner, the high cuff, the way my heel's locked. Only that extra room in the front is bugging me a bit. That's why I'm curious what kind of problems I should be having (Is it the feeling of control? Does it have any influence on my stance?).

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by Karlyboogy View Post
 

I made a mistake while describing my feet, I said quite narrow, but I meant a bit narrow. I think they fit snugly, the first few days they really had to set in and weren't comfortable yet." Now I have to use the buckles more". I think there will be better boots for me out there, but I'm really happy with the boots liner, the high cuff, the way my heel's locked. Only that extra room in the front is bugging me a bit. That's why I'm curious what kind of problems I should be having (Is it the feeling of control? Does it have any influence on my stance?).

I suggested you read the part about "shell fitting" the boots you now have.  As bootfitters we see your issues over and over because, no one wants there toes to touch the front of our shoes-----BUT, in shoes, because when we toe off and bend the front of the shoe with every step, the shoe becomes shorter when it bends and will bang our toes,( if the shoes were short enough to touch our toes before we bent them), ouch.

 

 You can't bend a ski boot in the same way, but with added G loads the foot will move around inside the shell---we/you will notice this going on, and tighten the buckles to stop the movement.  If you were to have the correct size shell on your feet you would not have as much room to move around in, in there, this still wouldn't hurt but would reward you with added control.  By the way liners are always sewn up shorter than the inside of the shell, but can stretch with use and fit, after break in.

 

With the boots you now have, instead of tightening the foot (lower 2 buckles), tighten the ankle (second buckle from the top) , untill it begins to hurt, then back off that buckle untill it is just comfortable, this will hold your heels in the back of the shell and improve control, still a sloppy fit, but better control... 

 

footbeds????

 

mike

post #7 of 12

to answer the question in the title of this thread

 

"yes"

post #8 of 12
Hey Mntlion,

Great answer, I wish I had thought of that

Mike
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thank you for your explanation. Now I have to figure out what to do. I've got footbeds.

post #10 of 12

Footbeds have nothing to do with the issue and can be adjusted to a smaller shell.

 

Lou

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 

Update: 

 

I've been to a bootfitter and it turns out my mondo size is 25 and they said I'm hypermobile (don't know if that's a word in English), which was why I got bruises on my shins. They advised a toe lift and custom shell. I only did the custom shell and they said I should try them first to see if we can adjust these or buy new ones.

 

After my visit I went to a shop (the bootfitter doesn't sell boots right now, and he's the only "Master bootfitter" in the Netherlands) and tried some boots myself. I thought the Salomon X-Max 100 (jr) in size 24.5 fitted best. My toes kept touching the liner, but not in a bad way. I did the shell check and had more than 1 cm room left. This makes me think I could also look at shells with a 24 mondo size, because 25 shells seems to widen too soon (going from heel to toe). But the bootfitter said my current boots have the right size and with the custom shell he said they should fit better. Could this be true?

 

Then another question, my feet are 88 and 87 mm wide and I only see boots with 98 mm last. Which boots should I be looking at, are there boots with a smaller last? 

post #12 of 12

sounds like a narrow 24 boot is what you need.   Jr race boot might be ok, if it is not too soft

 

Re: wdith:  good info at the end of this 

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

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