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GS gates for Club Racing - 2 options.....

post #1 of 6
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Im buying new dedicated pre-assembled easy to set up and take down GS gates for our local club. There are two options. One where the slightly thinner inside pole (furthest away from the skier) is eather equipped with a flexing joint like the outside pole or one where the inside pole is rigid since the skier newer hits it. There are advantages and drawbacks with both opitons. If the inside pole is equipped with a flexible pole it is heavier and a little more expensive. On the other hand, the hole can be drilled with the same drill and it stays inside the hole if hit. If the pole is rigid then its much lighter to carry and not as expensive. On the other hand, if hole drilled with the same drill as the outside hole then it slides easily out of its position.

 

What do you guys use? Any thaughts?

post #2 of 6

in training I've used the rigid inside pole, drilled with the same size bit.
Assuming you are getting screws and not the brush type, the rigid will be a lot easier to put in since you don't have to screw it in the snow, and a lot easier to pull out. 
For what I've seen they stay in place quite well on good snow, spring wet stuff not too much but it's never really an issue.

I would go for that.

post #3 of 6
Tdk, not sure I understand why you would need a different drill bit for the rigid pole? Normally the same drill bit for flex, rigid or brush. Are you using a different diameter on the rigid? I would recommend the rigid, lighter and easier to pull when you are taking down. Also stays upright better if it is windy and lasts longer ( no hinge to wear). I would also highly recommend the brush base rather than screw in for the flex gates, makes course setting (and tear down) a whole lot quicker
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier View Post

Tdk, not sure I understand why you would need a different drill bit for the rigid pole? Normally the same drill bit for flex, rigid or brush. Are you using a different diameter on the rigid? I would recommend the rigid, lighter and easier to pull when you are taking down. Also stays upright better if it is windy and lasts longer ( no hinge to wear). I would also highly recommend the brush base rather than screw in for the flex gates, makes course setting (and tear down) a whole lot quicker

What he said. Same drill, both poles, and definitely go with the brushes...

post #5 of 6

Brushes for sure. Break-A-Way 31mm with the Featherbase brushes are our turning poles of choice for U16 and older.

 

Actually, that's a slight lie - Liski C6 with the Liski mechanical hinge and "aftermarket" B-A-W Featherbase brushes is pretty optimal because the Liski mechanical hinges are better than the B-A-W plastic ones. But if you're buying new then that's not an economically sound option - we've upgraded about 250 Liski poles that we already owned, but we'll buy complete B-A-W poles when we need new ones.

 

SPM brushes are pretty good too. Liski have no brushes, but some weird velvety things that resemble "unmentionable" personal items and are pretty much useless.

 

I guess the reason tdk6 is talking about two drill bits is that the brushes want a 40/41mm hole, but the rigid poles will be happiest in e.g. a 32mm hole. In real life, don't sweat it. Just use the 40mm for both sides.

 

Most of our GS sets are set up now with the B-A-W / Liski variants mentioned above for the turning pole, and hinged "stick-in" outer poles (i.e. neither screw nor brush).


Edited by Squawker - 10/30/13 at 4:44am
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Hi, thanks for all your replies. Yes we are using brush-base type of gates since a couple of years now and yes, we are drilling 40mm holes for the main gates but the inside pole if its rigid only needs a much smaller hole. Ive made my mind up. We will go with the rigid thinner inside poles. Cheaper, lighter and better for our wide open windy mountains in the north.

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