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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I'm a big guy. Former rugby player, the whole nine yards. I'd be lying if I said I was in super shape, but I do run, hike and weight train, so I'm in sufficiently good shape to ski aggressively all day.

 

Here's my challenge. Because I do ski aggressively, both in bounds and, occasionally, backcountry, I want gear that's got all the technical features to stay comfortable all day. Unfortunately, the majority of technical ski wear I've found is sized for teenagers. I have, for instance, a 48" waist and a 52" chest. I recently saw a great bib that came in a 3X. Good news, right? No. Their definition of 3X was a 40" waist!

 

I've been using a mix of snowmobile and hunting gear that does some of what I want, but most of it is either designed for standing (hunting gear) or is much too warm for an active skier (snowmobile gear).

 

My challenge is with both pants/bibs and shells.

 

Anyone have any experience, advice, suggestions?

 

(PS - Even at my most recent pre-injury size, I was rocking a 44" waist at 19% body fat. I really am that "big guy".)

post #2 of 14

I know nothing about the quality but you might want to check this thread, could be just what you want.  http://epicski.onthesnow.com/t/122509/custom-outerwear-jackets-pants-bibs-usa-made 

post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

I know nothing about the quality but you might want to check this thread, could be just what you want.  http://epicski.onthesnow.com/t/122509/custom-outerwear-jackets-pants-bibs-usa-made 

Thanks! Curious you should mention this, as I too thought this might be the answer to my pleas. Unfortunately, these guys are the shining example of a ridiculous 3X that I mentioned in my original post. Unlike custom shirts or suits, their definition of "custom" is "we'll make it in whatever weird color combo you want, but you have to do it in our sizes".

 

If they did do actual custom sizing, they'd already have my business.

post #4 of 14

I was going to recommend LL Bean, as their stuff seems to be a little bigger than most, but the sizing chart has their XXL fitting 50-52" chest and 46-48" waist.

 

Ski gear is definitely sized down a bit.  I played rugby as well, and while I'm nowhere near your size, the XL tech gear fits real snug.  So much so, that I've started wearing a t-shirt over my mid layer so I don't look so ridiculous walking around the lodge.

post #5 of 14

I haven't checked out the sizing but I know Cabela's carries stuff that is appropriate for skiing--Goretex shells and the like.

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by mallthus View Post
 

I'm a big guy. Former rugby player, the whole nine yards. I'd be lying if I said I was in super shape, but I do run, hike and weight train, so I'm in sufficiently good shape to ski aggressively all day.

 

Here's my challenge. Because I do ski aggressively, both in bounds and, occasionally, backcountry, I want gear that's got all the technical features to stay comfortable all day. Unfortunately, the majority of technical ski wear I've found is sized for teenagers. I have, for instance, a 48" waist and a 52" chest. I recently saw a great bib that came in a 3X. Good news, right? No. Their definition of 3X was a 40" waist!

 

I've been using a mix of snowmobile and hunting gear that does some of what I want, but most of it is either designed for standing (hunting gear) or is much too warm for an active skier (snowmobile gear).

 

My challenge is with both pants/bibs and shells.

 

Anyone have any experience, advice, suggestions?

 

(PS - Even at my most recent pre-injury size, I was rocking a 44" waist at 19% body fat. I really am that "big guy".)

 

 

 

 

 

This is an extremely biased post;

Freeride Systems http://www.freeridesystems.com/ is a Colorado Handmade Lifestyle and Technical Outdoor Apparel brand. There is not currently an option for pants but the recently released the Antero II Jacket would be.

 

The jacket is a 3-layer Gore-Tex soft-shell that has seam taping and an addition DWR coating. The jacket has a helmet compatible hood and revised high collar design as well as a simplistic technical design. We have sizes up to XXL in limited colors. I often hear that out sizes run large and always have longer sleeves to make sure there are no gaps in coverage when outdoors.

 

Freeride Systems was established a few years ago by providing search and rescue teams options for Made in Colorado technical gear that performs in the worst weather, as well as ski carry options for backcountry users.

 

I'm local to Denver and would be happy to meet you with examples of the 2XL to see if this would be an option for you. In addition to this I can extend a discount code for being an Epic Ski member.

post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
 

I haven't checked out the sizing but I know Cabela's carries stuff that is appropriate for skiing--Goretex shells and the like.

 

 

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Originally Posted by St Bear View Post
 

I was going to recommend LL Bean, as their stuff seems to be a little bigger than most, but the sizing chart has their XXL fitting 50-52" chest and 46-48" waist.

 

Ski gear is definitely sized down a bit.  I played rugby as well, and while I'm nowhere near your size, the XL tech gear fits real snug.  So much so, that I've started wearing a t-shirt over my mid layer so I don't look so ridiculous walking around the lodge.

 

I have found some gear at both Cabela's and Bass Pro. They're better than nothing but not quite to bright. For instance, I've found that fishing bibs (!?!?) work very well for skiing, with zippered legs and, unsurprisingly, excellent waterproofing. On the downside, they're extremely pocket challenged.

 

In terms of shells and parkas, the issues are focused on both functionality and appearance. In my experience, these two firms focus on more sedentary activities, so their gear is very good at keeping you warm and dry, but isn't very versatile when it comes to dynamic conditions. Plus, almost everything they sell has a hood which just isn't awesome to have when you're rocking a helmet. Also, I'm just opposed to skiing in camo or hunter's orange!

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnEscape View Post
 

This is an extremely biased post;

Freeride Systems http://www.freeridesystems.com/ is a Colorado Handmade Lifestyle and Technical Outdoor Apparel brand. There is not currently an option for pants but the recently released the Antero II Jacket would be.

 

The jacket is a 3-layer Gore-Tex soft-shell that has seam taping and an addition DWR coating. The jacket has a helmet compatible hood and revised high collar design as well as a simplistic technical design. We have sizes up to XXL in limited colors. I often hear that out sizes run large and always have longer sleeves to make sure there are no gaps in coverage when outdoors.

 

Freeride Systems was established a few years ago by providing search and rescue teams options for Made in Colorado technical gear that performs in the worst weather, as well as ski carry options for backcountry users.

 

I'm local to Denver and would be happy to meet you with examples of the 2XL to see if this would be an option for you. In addition to this I can extend a discount code for being an Epic Ski member.

I was just having a look at your website. Very awesome gear and great that it's Colorado made. Will be looking into.

post #9 of 14

Mallthus, 

 

I'm just offering a suggestion,not trying to step on any supporter's business toes. I completely understand the difficulty in finding good ski wear at your size. I'm pretty stout myself, but I know a few very big guys who are really serious skiers. I was on trip a couple of years ago with a few ex NFL's....including a NT who had slimmed down to about 285. I noticed what they were wearing....almost all Spyder.  I asked why. "It fits."

 

Take a look at Backcountry.com , and look at size XXXL in some of their Spyder jackets and coats. Spyder is one of the few companies that makes an XXXL. I know that these fit some guys your size. I'd also suggest Rainy Pass Repair {www.rainypass.com} for alterations, such as shortening pants....if needed. They can pretty much do anything. I've had great results with them. Handle the factory repairs for a lot of great brands. I can be a tight fit in a XXL, and found Spyder Dare pants to fit quite generously. Real easy to return to BC if they don't fit. Worth a try, IMO. 

 

Again, just trying to help, and add another suggestion. No dog in this hunt at all. 

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Muleski View Post
 

Mallthus,

 

I'm just offering a suggestion,not trying to step on any supporter's business toes. I completely understand the difficulty in finding good ski wear at your size. I'm pretty stout myself, but I know a few very big guys who are really serious skiers. I was on trip a couple of years ago with a few ex NFL's....including a NT who had slimmed down to about 285. I noticed what they were wearing....almost all Spyder.  I asked why. "It fits."

 

Take a look at Backcountry.com , and look at size XXXL in some of their Spyder jackets and coats. Spyder is one of the few companies that makes an XXXL. I know that these fit some guys your size. I'd also suggest Rainy Pass Repair {www.rainypass.com} for alterations, such as shortening pants....if needed. They can pretty much do anything. I've had great results with them. Handle the factory repairs for a lot of great brands. I can be a tight fit in a XXL, and found Spyder Dare pants to fit quite generously. Real easy to return to BC if they don't fit. Worth a try, IMO.

 

Again, just trying to help, and add another suggestion. No dog in this hunt at all.

Suggestions is the point of threads like this and I'm happy to provide additional options for people that may not have the brand recognition of Freeride Systems. As long as you don't run over my dog I won't be offended. :D

post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Muleski View Post
 

Mallthus, 

 

I'm just offering a suggestion,not trying to step on any supporter's business toes. I completely understand the difficulty in finding good ski wear at your size. I'm pretty stout myself, but I know a few very big guys who are really serious skiers. I was on trip a couple of years ago with a few ex NFL's....including a NT who had slimmed down to about 285. I noticed what they were wearing....almost all Spyder.  I asked why. "It fits."

 

Take a look at Backcountry.com , and look at size XXXL in some of their Spyder jackets and coats. Spyder is one of the few companies that makes an XXXL. I know that these fit some guys your size. I'd also suggest Rainy Pass Repair {www.rainypass.com} for alterations, such as shortening pants....if needed. They can pretty much do anything. I've had great results with them. Handle the factory repairs for a lot of great brands. I can be a tight fit in a XXL, and found Spyder Dare pants to fit quite generously. Real easy to return to BC if they don't fit. Worth a try, IMO. 

 

Again, just trying to help, and add another suggestion. No dog in this hunt at all. 

I've historically presumed Spyder to run trim, but I'll revisit. They're based just down the road from me, so I ought to give them a fair shake.

post #12 of 14

Stuff for snowboarder is always too big for me...

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by mogsie View Post

Stuff for snowboarder is always too big for me...

Brilliant!
post #14 of 14

Missed your thread the first time around.  As a big guy and also former rugby player myself, I feel your pain.  I'm about 6'6" with a 40-42" waist and 48-50" chest.  I usually have more problems with 'tall' than 'big', but both can be problematic.  'slim fit' or 'technical fit' gear is generally awful on me.

 

After having a lot of problems with ski jackets I ended up getting a custom soft shell from www.beyondclothing.com.  Pricing is comparable to MSRP on a high-end technical shell ($300-400), but they make it custom to your measurements.  However, I just checked their site again and they seem to be retooling everything -- no custom stuff is available right now.  But I think there are a couple other companies doing similar things.  Or shoot them an email and maybe they can tell you what the schedule is for having custom orders available again.

 

Eddie Bauer and Columbia (which owns Mountain Hardwear as well) also tend to run pretty big in their sizing and offer a lot of big+tall sizes.

 

I was able to get some Arcteryx ski pants in a tall size that fit me great.  But there was a lot of trial and error in that process and they weren't cheap.

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