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Ogasaka ski

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Ski Make:Ogasaka
Ski Model:Unity EX
Ski Length:165
Snow Conditions Used In:New England hardpack to frozen granular
Number of Days Used: one run
Your Ability:8/9
How Many Years Have You Been Skiing: 15
Avg. Days per Year Skiing: 60+
Other Skis You Like:Volkl Atomic
Your Height/Weight: 5'11" 195lbs
Comments: This ski has such a locked to the snow feel I have only felt that in a few other skis. I demoed three of there skis and they all had that feel.

The Unity EX was the ski I had the most fun on. Half way down the run I stopped by my son and the first word out of my mouth was, WOW, He said I could tell by your second turn that you liked that ski. Its quick edge to edge, has a light feel on your feet, and unbelieveable edge hold.
Felt great at high speeds. If you can find a pair to demo, make sure you try them.

I also liked there ET-FX 113-74-103 twin tip ski. I could only demo it in a 160cm, again great edge to edge and great feel. I liked it but would have rather had it in a 170cm. It was late in the day and didn't have a chance to get on a 170cm. My son who is lighter then me enjoyed that ski also.

They are from Japan and have been making skis since 1912. http://www.ogasakaski.com/

[ March 15, 2004, 04:06 AM: Message edited by: Max Capacity ]
post #2 of 11
Interesting, I looked at them, but there were so many other skis on my wish list.

Didn't look like too many folks were willing to try an unknown brand, everytime I passed their booth they were the only ones with no customers.

I'll keep an eye out for them in the future.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
I know what you mean. With 8 different brands there it was hard to decide.
post #4 of 11
I will hopefully be getting a couple of pair of Ogasaka's for 2 weeks or so-perhaps the GS/Cross ski and the freeride model. I hear great things about them-they have the Stockli "all business" look, with fairly plain graphics and vertical sidewalls. I am looking forward to it-they are really trying to expand their presence in the US, so look for them in the next few years. Unfortunately, their prices are also Stockli-like-but you get what you pay for!
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
We spoke with the two young people who were at the demo for quit some time and they said don't believe the list price on the borchure. They will do pro form and other discounts. They want to get the skis out there so people see them. You may be able to get some early bird specials.

I will be interested to read your reviews.

My son demoed 4 of there skis and liked all of them. He's pretty demanding of his skis, and knows what he likes.
post #6 of 11
Anyone ride the KC-RV (105-65-95 18m radius@175cm) Non-FIS compliant hobby racer ski?
Looks interesting...same class as the Atomic SX-11 Supercross??

Anyone ride the KEOS's AT GS ski?

Thanks...
post #7 of 11
Etech-

I demoed the KC-RV last month. Yes, I suppose that you are correct in that it is in the same class as the SX-11, but it is not at all similar. Unlike the SX-11, it is a wood based ski so it feels different. It felt pretty light and it was an enjoyable ski, but it did not have the energy of the Atomic. The conditions were pretty good on the day that I skied it so I don't know how they would hold on the ice. On the same day, I was demoing Fischer skis and I skied the RX-8, the SC, the RC, the GS, as well as my own RX-9s. Of all of the skis, the KC-RV seemed the most damped. On the other hand, they were not as stiff as any of the other skis and it was pretty easy to initiate turns. They also seemed to be pretty flexible when it came to varying turn sizes. Overall, it was a very plush ride and I recall that they reminded me of the K2 Axis XR as far as dampness and feedback (not turning radius). They were definitely an enjoyable ski, just not as lively as some of the others skis that I've skied, and certainly not like the Atomic SX-11 which I also own.
post #8 of 11
I skied the KC-RV in 180 and it skis much like my 178 cm Stockli Laser SC's.
Easier tip hook-up with plenty of muscle.
Skis damp at high speeds.
Very enjoyable. Great graphics and top sheet.
A ski to take seriously.

Rock'n Doc
post #9 of 11
Ski Make: Ogasaka
Ski Model: Triun GS
Ski Length: 180cm
Snow Conditions Used In:
Hard, early morning Eastern spring conditions ...0-1cm light granular sugar on top of hard-"leave no tracks" base groomed the night before...
Number of Days Used: 1
Your Ability: Expert - Masters Racer Type - Race Coach
How Many Years Have You Been Skiing: 42
Avg. Days per Year Skiing: 30
Other Skis You Like: Nordica World Cup Race-Stock K-series..11,12, doberman.. GS
Your Height/Weight: 5'10" 175lbs.

Comments:
The Ogasaka Triun GS
..180cm 21m Radius 103x66x93..
Is a real, racers-only GS ski. The demo I tried had their riser-plate under the Look demo bindings. I found, as expected with a real GS race board, that the ski was somewhat unresponsive, a little "skiddy" and dull at slow speeds, but once you got up over about 20+mph, and put some hip into it, the Triun GS came alive and became very, very quick and tracked on rails, especially happy with a little bit of tail pressure at the last 1/3 of the turn. It took about 6 turns to find its sweet spot and weighting preference. Damp without feeling heavy, very secure, no vibration, very, very fast and predictable...an excellent choice for racers. Quick edge-to-edge with nice transitions under pressure. Not for tourists. The Triun GS is indeed an FIS giant slalom device. It is truly only happy when pushed into race mode and treated like the ski it was designed to be. It does not require super-human strength to make it work (nice), just a solid technique and focus, as it should. Excellent performance, with no hint of nervousness at race speeds the patrolers would pull your ticket for enjoying ...

The fit and finish of the ski is superb. Some of the best workmanship I have seen in a ski. They came with what looked to be maybe a few runs on them...so they were brand new. This is the real deal. Any GS racers should check this ski out and see if it's behavior suits your style. I personally like the heavy feel of the Nordica GS race ski a little better for my style, but the Ogasaka Triun GS is quicker edge-to-edge and probably would deliver a faster elapsed time in a turny GS course, and not tire you out as much after a full day of playing GS racer all over the mountain. Has a traditional wood-core feel to it..none of the "plastic" ski feel of some skis out there...Very, very nice ski. Try it.

http://www.ogasakaski.com
post #10 of 11
Ski Make: Ogasaka
Ski Model: KC-RV
Ski Length: 175cm
Snow Conditions Used In:
Hard, early morning Eastern spring conditions ...0-1cm light granular sugar on top of hard-"leave no tracks" base groomed the night before...
Number of Days Used: 1
Your Ability: Expert - Masters Racer Type - Race Coach
How Many Years Have You Been Skiing: 42
Avg. Days per Year Skiing: 30
Other Skis You Like: Nordica World Cup Race-Stock K-series..11,12, doberman.. GS
Your Height/Weight: 5'10" 175lbs.

Comments:
The Ogasaka KC-RV
..175cm 18m Radius 105x65x95..

A non-FIS compliant GS ski.

This ski is billed for "hobby racers and experts looking for race ski quality but more versatility"

The pair I tried had their riser plate under the Look demo bindings...I would definitely put the riser on this ski if I was to buy it...

Very nice, very versatile ski with a desire to make GS turns...as QuickK9 mentioned in his post earlier, it is not as lively as some other skis, but that is not a bad thing...It reminded me of the Volkl 5 star...but with more GS-feel to it, therefore capable of more high-speed cruising and carving nice, big arcs. You can definitely vary your turn shape at any time, as well as start any shape you want at any speed. Nicely damped, no vibration...handled very, very well. The more I skied it...the more I liked it. I would buy this ski for an all-mountain expert ski. Definitely has the muscle under the hood to handle pressure, without the "rock you into the backseat" snap at high speeds which some skis can get you into trouble with. The ride is very plush and grippy, and given any kind of surface depth to sink into, really comes around in awesome carving style, capable of digging trenches with no problem. I really liked this ski and found it has a huge range of abilities, with serious grip and oomph if you want to use it...but it is EASY to ski...no demands of the driver at all...definitely a modern marvel of ski design...and it looks dead-serious in black-and-white motif...Fit and finish were superb...some of the best workmanship I have seen (like the Triun GS reviewed above). I would choose the Ogasaka KC-RV over the Volkl 5 star for this type of ski category. It just grew on me more and more. Wicked fun. Get yourself on a pair and try them. Now, if they would only put a bit more tightly wound fiberglass in it, and maybe a bit more wood in the tail for some spunk and explosive power...they might have a supercross ski on their hands....hmmmmmmmm.....
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
The things your asking for I believe you will find in there Unity EX. Most of what you said is what I felt when I demoed the KC-RV.
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