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Should I buy new skis or is snow deprivation making me crazy?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

At the end of last season I demo'ed some things and more or less decided that I should just stick out another season on my current skis and put disposable income towards lessons. But now I have enough spare change laying around that I was thinking it would be nice to have a ski that did a little better with crud and powder than the narrowish ski I have now. (And still take plenty of lessons)

 

Me: 5'11, 180 lbs, hopefully 175 or less by ski season if I keep up my swimming/cycling/gym routine and stop drinking a beer or two every night. Essentially started skiing two seasons ago, ~35 combined days over those two years.

 

This year I hope to do 40-50 days, as long as a month of bumming in Tahoe goes according to plan. Either way, I'll be skiing a lot in Tahoe with a few days at Telluride and maybe a few in Utah thrown in.

 

My current skis: '07 Fischer AMC79s (thanks TheDad!) These have treated me well, but bumps are a little tough with the stiff tails and they're not so easy in crud and powder. Something a little fatter that can still carve a little bit on groomers would be nice.

 

Terrain: last year I skied maybe 50/50, though a lot of that was due to the lack of snow. I'd rather spend 70/30 off-piste. I was getting the hang of skiing trees at Heavenly and Telluride towards the end of last season and would like to do more of that. Closing weekend at Alpine I spent a lot of time skiing bumps and was really having fun. Maybe I was getting good at them or maybe I was having success because the snow was soft and wet enough to make it easier. The corn on Beaver Bowl closing day at Alpine was a highlight of the season. Mostly I ski Kirkwood, and really like skiing Lookout Vista back towards Chair 2 when the snow's soft enough for me to handle it.

 

Things I demo'ed:

 

Bonafide: Fun to rip fast GS turns, but I want something more suited to bumps and trees.

 

MX88: I think these were just too demanding for me. My technique isn't sufficient to maneuver them well; they were hard to turn and the tails spanked me around a bit.

 

Cham 97s: I skied these the day after the Kastle's and they were fun by comparison, but I wasn't skiing with any kind of precision. They handled the heavy wet snow of closing day at Telluride nicely, but I want something more precise.

 

Bushwacker: I stupidly didn't ride these in bumps or trees, but I'd like something stiffer and more stable.

 

Skis I've researched:

 

FX94: I was really interested in these since I had heard that they were more forgiving and easier than the MX series. But then I came across some talk that maybe they still might kick my butt like the MX88s.

 

LX92: These are what I'm leaning towards now? Would the 174s be too short for me?

 

DPS Wailer 99s: these are clearly divisive and I haven't seen any great deals on them. (I'm looking to buy some used skis in good shape before the season starts.)

 

(As you might tell by the skis that have attracted me, I'm into minimalist graphic design, which of course has nothing to do with what skis I should buy, but...)

 

Any recs? Should I just forget about new skis for another season and get better? I'd really rather get a good deal on something that may or may not ideal for me than spend a lot of time and money early in the season demo'ing. Low 90s seems to make sense. If I saw a pair of Watea 94s for $200 in my size like were on the gear swap forum I'd probably just buy something like that given the low cost and everyone's general enthusiasm.

 

Thanks for reading and please make it snow so I can think about something other than skiing.

post #2 of 19

1. Yes, get skis, the AMC is a quite dated design now.  

2. Throwing out the collected buzz and focusing only on your impressions of the skis you demoed, several things in your post  make me think that your technique is going to change *a lot* over the coming season.    Put another way, those demo impressions have a *very* limited shelf life. 

3. Where are you with boots?  Some of your impressions sound like they might stem from unresolved balance issues. 

post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 

I love my boots. I wasn't too worried about my skis when I started out but didn't go cheap on boots. I went to a very good bootfitter around two years ago and was fitted with Dabello Krypton Rampages, with custom footbeds. I'm ~35 days in with them.


Edited by JesseD - 10/25/13 at 8:51am
post #4 of 19

Line Profit 98 or Sick Day 95.... Different skis, but I think you'd enjoy them. Nordica Soul Rider... or dare we say the Soul 7?

post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thanks markojp,

 

Would you mind elaborating a bit?

 

The Soul Rider reviews on blistergear make it sound like a very good choice for me. Not sure I want anything as wide as the Soul 7, as good as the buzz is on them. Are the Prophets easier to drive in bumps and trees than the Bonafides?

 

Should I totally forget about the Kastle's? I only bring them up because I could buy either one I mentioned for around $500. I'm not sure I'll find a better price on the skis you mentioned.

post #6 of 19

So buy the Kastles, and sell them for about 850~900... use the profit to pay a chunk of a Soul Rider or similar. :) And yes, the profits should be easier for you in the bumps.

post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 

Haha, point taken.

 

I will start looking around for Soul Riders or Prophet 98s.

post #8 of 19

Profits easier in the bumps than the Bonafide I should clarify.

post #9 of 19

If you truly can afford it I would always endorse buying new skis.

 

The impression I am getting is that you might be in the aspiring solid advanced intermediate zone and money doesn't grow on trees.  If that's the case keep what you got for hard pack days and starting thinking 105-110 and user friendly.  Soul 7 was mentioned.  Also think about Salomon Rocker 2 108, Salomon Q-105, Icelantic Nomad RKR, or an RMU Apostle.  All these skis will rock in any condition and give you a nice stable fat platform to get after it in the pow pow and after the pow pow gets skied up.

 

Don't be a sucker!  Try to demo before you buy.

 

My 2¢.

post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 

Rug Wheelie, your impression is correct.

 

I initially dismissed the Soul 7s, but the more I researched them today, the more tempted I become. I may not even wait to demo since it sounds like these will sell out quickly. If I don't like them I can always resell them for close to what I will pay.

post #11 of 19

Soul 7 is a really nice mash-up of fat and skinny.  I've skied it a few times.  The only negative thing I can think of is that if you are timid it can be a little squirrely at mach looney!

post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by JesseD View Post

Rug Wheelie, your impression is correct.

I initially dismissed the Soul 7s, but the more I researched them today, the more tempted I become. I may not even wait to demo since it sounds like these will sell out quickly. If I don't like them I can always resell them for close to what I will pay.
Demoing is really highly recommended. I would take the risk and wait things out as there are just so many great skis put there today, with not much of a Drop off from one manufacturer to another.
Edited by Gostan - 10/26/13 at 10:07am
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 

Well I couldn't resist the Soul 7s with the Freeski 120s from Aspen Ski and Board Co. for $730 all in. The skis alone would cost me more if I bought them here in California after taxes. 

 

As far as buying these blind, after demo'ing a bunch of skis over three or four days last year, I'd rather just buy skis before the season and be done with it. It seems like these have enough buzz that if I don't like them it's likely that I'll be able to sell them for near what I paid for them minus what the cost of demoing them for a few days would be.

 

Now I just need snow.

 

Thanks for the help everyone.

post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by JesseD View Post
 

Well I couldn't resist the Soul 7s with the Freeski 120s from Aspen Ski and Board Co. for $730 all in. The skis alone would cost me more if I bought them here in California after taxes. 

 

As far as buying these blind, after demo'ing a bunch of skis over three or four days last year, I'd rather just buy skis before the season and be done with it. It seems like these have enough buzz that if I don't like them it's likely that I'll be able to sell them for near what I paid for them minus what the cost of demoing them for a few days would be.

 

Now I just need snow.

 

Thanks for the help everyone.

 

Or sell them at a profit once the supply drys up:rolleyes.

post #15 of 19
 

 

MX88: I think these were just too demanding for me. My technique isn't sufficient to maneuver them well; they were hard to turn and the tails spanked me around a bit.

 

 

FX94: I was really interested in these since I had heard that they were more forgiving and easier than the MX series. But then I came across some talk that maybe they still might kick my butt like the MX88s.

 

LX92: These are what I'm leaning towards now? Would the 174s be too short for me?

 

 

Have you tought of the fx84? The most versatile of the Kastle skis! Could be an in-between the fx94 and lx92... It can be a fun carver and it is really fun in bumps and trees! You could try to buy one from last years; this year, they are going from two 0.3 mm sheet of titanal to 0.4 mm... they're going to be a tiny bit more stiff...

post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 

I wasn't as focused on the fx84 since I wanted something a little wider, thinking I would need a little more to handle the heavy snow in Tahoe. And also because they seemingly aren't as popular as the fx94. I may ski a day or two in PA when I go home for the holidays. If there is one to demo there it will be on my shortlist. 

post #17 of 19
Jesse, good luck with the souls!
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 

I finally got to ride my Soul 7s today...man, are they fun! It was far from ideal conditions for them with only groomers open - albeit soft ones - but they still ripped like crazy. I couldn't believe how easy they were to ski, especially carving. (I had expected tipping over a 105 waisted ski to be a bit of a chore, but not at all). The sweet spot is huge and they are crazy forgiving. I had so much more confidence and was able to ski more aggressively. I can't wait to ski them Saturday morning with if the 12"+ of snow comes through.

 

Thanks for your help everyone!

post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by JesseD View Post
 

I finally got to ride my Soul 7s today...man, are they fun! It was far from ideal conditions for them with only groomers open - albeit soft ones - but they still ripped like crazy. I couldn't believe how easy they were to ski, especially carving. (I had expected tipping over a 105 waisted ski to be a bit of a chore, but not at all). The sweet spot is huge and they are crazy forgiving. I had so much more confidence and was able to ski more aggressively. I can't wait to ski them Saturday morning with if the 12"+ of snow comes through.

 

Thanks for your help everyone!


Glad you like those Soul 7's!  They are really fun, really quick for a big ski like that, up there with the big Stockli 107 for frontside performance.  Bummer you couldn't try out the FX94, but it is a lot of $. I think a bit more forgiving than the MX88 though, softer in the tip, shorter length and shorter running length (3.5cm less) in the 176cm vs 178cm MX88.

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