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post #61 of 82
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

They have arrived.. Pretty sick ski. Build is precise, clean and well put together. Graphics are much nicer in "person".

Medium+ flex is just about perfect, I would say its pretty much the same as a BentChetler. except stiffer under foot. 

 

Both tip and tail are pretty soft but stiffens up more quickly than a Bent. 


Rocker is more than you think but not too much rise/splay; pretty quick reduction in splay over long run and not pronounced in the tail; more abrupt splay at end of tail with fairly shorter run. 

Underfoot, above the toe and below the heel are fairly stiff

Mount dot looks very good. I need to play around but the location in relation to the camber looks to be spot on. 

Actual tip to tail on the 187 is exactly 73" or 185.4cms

These are going to be exceptional skis.

:worthless

post #62 of 82
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

They have arrived.. Pretty sick ski. Build is precise, clean and well put together. Graphics are much nicer in "person".

Medium+ flex is just about perfect, I would say its pretty much the same as a BentChetler. except stiffer under foot. 

 

Both tip and tail are pretty soft but stiffens up more quickly than a Bent. 


Rocker is more than you think but not too much rise/splay; pretty quick reduction in splay over long run and not pronounced in the tail; more abrupt splay at end of tail with fairly shorter run. 

Underfoot, above the toe and below the heel are fairly stiff

Mount dot looks very good. I need to play around but the location in relation to the camber looks to be spot on. 

Actual tip to tail on the 187 is exactly 73" or 185.4cms

These are going to be exceptional skis.


So does that mean that Praxis measures raw layup material length as opposed to straight pull tip to tail?

post #63 of 82
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I am reposting these from TGR credit to MJbumper

 

 

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post #64 of 82
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post
 


So does that mean that Praxis measures raw layup material length as opposed to straight pull tip to tail?

 

 

I cant speak to that however most companies measure pre-rockered blank. The 185.5 is perfect. 

post #65 of 82

Hey man, this thread is a cool read, I can feel the excitement.  But shoot, I was just thinking.... a couple of months ago when I told you about my new Praxis Powders didn't you reply something like, "Those should be sweet but I'm more of a DPS guy"? =D

 

How the world turns, eh?

 

Anyway dude, I'm so looking forward to the next time we're at the boat usin' those boards for what they're meant!

 

Cheers!

Thumbs Up:snowfall:beercheer:

post #66 of 82
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still a fan, and these r not a replacement for them.  but, I didn't know you had them? Is there a post?  

 

Congrats on a very cool ski.  


Edited by Finndog - 10/31/13 at 1:57pm
post #67 of 82
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

 

 

I cant speak to that however most companies measure pre-rockered blank. The 185.5 is perfect. 


Just wondering. I know for a fact ON3P measures straight pull.

post #68 of 82
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post
 


So does that mean that Praxis measures raw layup material length as opposed to straight pull tip to tail?

 

Just measured a few pair to double check :D

 

Looks like actual length of base material from tip to tail (following the curvature of the entire base...).

post #69 of 82
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so a pre-rockered measure...

 

There's nothing wrong with either way. What would be nice is if all manufacturers did it the same way. Ideally, it would be great if they used actual post production lengths. 

 

The more I play around with the ski the more cool stuff I have noticed.  

 

Camber on this ski extends down to behind the heel very nicely., tapered sidewall underfoot and vertical above and below.  

post #70 of 82
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

still a fan, and these r not a replacement for them.  but, I didn't know you had them? Is there a post?  

 

Congrats on a very cool ski.  

Well poop on a cracker...... it's possible I made the whole exchange up..... or maybe we had a phone conversation about it???

 

I posted in the What's the Widest Ski in Your Quiver thread..... but you didn't??  Perhaps the title under my name should read 'revisionist history specialist'.

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138 for next year!

 

The Gathering in SLC+plans for a Canadian Pow Highway trip+CO due for a deeep year+the Praxis Memorial Day sale=Powder Boards for the Freaq =)

 

 

Yeah, I figured if I'm going up from 118 I might as well go all the way to reverse, reverse and see what that is all about.  Got soft 200s with an orange and green top sheet.  Might not even paint 'em.

 

Oh, and I do dig the top sheet.  No paint for these!

post #71 of 82
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entirely possible and if I were motivated I would look, but my guess is you are correct. It was't until recently when I finally got my quiver in order that I had the same idea of you; I wanted something "different". These are truly different ski's (especially the Powder boards) and aren't just wider "traditional" skis.  So yeah, I will say that I am sure I did post that.  

 

i am hoping we can have a Praxis day at the boat soon.  

post #72 of 82
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

so a pre-rockered measure...

 

There's nothing wrong with either way. What would be nice is if all manufacturers did it the same way. Ideally, it would be great if they used actual post production lengths. 

 

That makes me wonder how K2 measure their skis, since tip to tail length is usually longer than stated length... :confused

post #73 of 82
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That makes me wonder how K2 measure their skis, since tip to tail length is usually longer than stated length... :confused

 

who the F knows how they measure!  Maybe by flat blank before any bend (even for tip) ? that's pretty much the only way they could get the lengths they claim. 

post #74 of 82
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That makes me wonder how K2 measure their skis, since tip to tail length is usually longer than stated length... :confused


Pretty sure they just make a bunch of ski's then label them whatever is the hot selling size.

post #75 of 82
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WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER  :eek

post #76 of 82

I kinda like the image. Sort of The Office goes to ski school. 

post #77 of 82
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Originally Posted by Dane View Post
 

 

I mounted @ the dimple on the 182cm

and -2.5mm on the 192cm

+1 on the Protest

 

Big decision for me.  Some reasoning behind it all.  But proof is in the skiing.   Tech bindings limit what you can do so you have to actually decide prior and see what happens. I'll write up full detailed reviews on all three and some direct comparisons once I get some time on them.

 

 

Ha ha!  Jokes on me. :cool   Praxis changed the mount point the 13/14 Protest.  I was unaware of that when I mounted at +1 which is now +3 compared to every review I have read.  I'll get to test my +/- 3 theory for almost full effect this winter.  At the +3, -2.5 and -0- mount point anyway.   I thought I had done my home work.  Missed that important test question.

 

"11/12 Protest product sheet says dimple at 10 cm back of ski center for 187 cm.

13/14 Protest sheet says dimple at 8 cm back of ski center for 187 cm"

 

 

Ball of my foot is perfectly placed as intended @ the ski's measured mid point so I suspect I'll be OK.  But wish I had been aware of the dimple change prior to mounting.  I am not a huge fan of forward mounted skis...BIG skis under foot like the Protest or the 138 being the exception.  Other wise I'd be pretty pissed.


Edited by Dane - 11/2/13 at 11:45am
post #78 of 82
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
 

 

Just measured a few pair to double check :D

 

Looks like actual length of base material from tip to tail (following the curvature of the entire base...).

 

Most skis IME use the material length from tip to tail as the published length - except for K2.  WTF they're doing I have no idea.

post #79 of 82
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
 

 

Most skis IME use the material length from tip to tail as the published length - except for K2.  WTF they're doing I have no idea.


I'm not sure why this is used. I don't care about material length. I don't ski flat material.

post #80 of 82

"Most skis use the material length from tip to tail as the published length.  Actual tip to tail on the 187 is exactly 73" or 185.4cms"

 

Would seem to make sense from a production stand point.

Need a pair of 187cm skis?  You stick in 187cm worth of materials.

Exact ski length on a straight pull tip to tail is going to be different.

post #81 of 82

Well, I'm still a week or two from getting cleared to hit the mighty greens. So I thought I'd take a few minutes to finally get around to doing the post I've been meaning to do  since I rummaged for pics a few weeks ago. Some family Praxis Protest stoke from the past few years:

 

 

This one keeps making me green with envy - cloudpeak skiing to the caldera of the Icelandic volcano Askja (I was busy with PT :mad)

 

 

The rest are mostly random shots from Stevens, with the odd shot from Crystal and Mammoth. Mostly straight lift served, but a couple boot pack lines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

Fingers crossed for this season!

post #82 of 82

Nice airs for the red/orange guy!

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