My apologies. Unintentionally with the morning coffee this turned into a bit of a tome.
"Bent has way more rocker than the Protest...looks and I bet skis a lot like a fat RP112"
Fin, I was serious about the Bent looking like a fat 112 from the rocker profiles. It was a serious compliment.
The one place I did like my RP112s was in tight trees. They would turn on a dime with almost zero effort. But not "enough" ski under me to like them on the rest of the mountian.
I'm 190 naked. So by the time I get all kitted up I'm over 200#. A stiffer ski is just more comfortable for me. Which is one reason I really like the RPC. But having known the bliss of a 138 as well as its down side. Fun for me to look at what others are trying to achieve in a ski and why. Hard to ski every thing out there. So it is one way to get a little eductaion.
By the look of it a little wider, good rocker, some added carbon, not to mention the price, looks to me like the Bent would be a really fun ski for what you want. I was really thrown by the switch sking and all the air in the Blister review. Knowing how much I dislike way forward mounted , hugely rockered skis.
My guess, which is likely lame, is the Bent is like a wider RP112. And the Protest is like a wider RPC. Which if I am even close puts them both into the 138 play ground on the fun factor. Just getting there in different ways. If you like a slarvy/surf ski I suspect the extra rocker will....will really rock and make the ski really easy to turn in the tight trees you are talking about.
Saw this and thought worth commenting
"But I also want a wider ski (120 and up) to access low angle pow areas that get overlooked. I don't really care if its mellow, if its fresh or settled untracked I'll ski it. The 112/113 isn't enough float to really get into it. The RPC112 is probably a ski I would love BTW."
We seem to like to ski some similar things. Catching the left overs on easy terrain is somethng I really enjoy (no avi danger or tree wells to drop info) but never really had a sk i that would excel at it until recently. Not an intentional plug for the RPC btw. Just an observation from last winter.
The RP112 didn't have enough flotation to carry me through low angle terrain in deeper snow to make turns. Snow was there but I couldn't really "play" in it as I thought I might if only on the right ski. 112 was fun else where because they turn so easily. That I really did like. The 138 needed some serious 3D snow and speed to come alive. Getting to the "patch skiing" made the patch almost forgetable because of the effort just to get there. Once there and with enough snow the 138 was a sweet ride. But didn't like the day turning into...."not the best day for a 138" and eventually going home early if the BC was off limits.
The RPC was finally a ski that allowed me into all that terrain with a huge grin on my face getting there and slashing it up. The fun little stashes left all over the mountain after or during a big storn that no one else bothers with. Might be just 6 to 10 turns, still some sweet stuff!
"I am not ripping down the fall line though; that's a ski I don't want"
I like to get every bit of use out of the snow I have :) The 138s turned 2500' of vert on my old mountain into 2 short sections of fun and just a few too short minutes. Never forget just how small the mountain became on the 138s skiing the fall line. Fun but not my prefered style of skiing. I bought the GPO and the Protest late last Spring on sale just for that last pocket of snow, more turns and tight trees. Llike what I was skiing in my first and admittedly funky video, just needed more snow. I'd bet the Bent Chadlers would be perfect here as would a 112. The 138s would have sucked. And not likely a place I'd want the Protest either. I do have a short set of GPOs I am expecting great things from on this particular run. And a longer pair and the Protests for more open terrain in depper snow. All while leaving the "not the best day" skis for someone else to ride. Curious what you end up with and how you like them. Both good skis obviously. Hard to be dissapoointed in either of them.
Edited by Dane - 10/27/13 at 10:19pm