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Tecnica Diablo Magnesium

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Just a heads up. The Tecnica Diablo's run large. I'm a US size 8.5, Mondopoint 26.0 in the Tecnica Icon Carbon. I shell sized my Icon's with one pinky finger behind my heel, and have had a great fit with them. My new Diablo's came in the same size, but the new last on the Diablo's is bigger, and the 26.0 is substaintially bigger and I have almost 2.5 fingers behind my heel, when I shell sized them. So, a word of caution, SIZE DOWN! I'll be getting a 25.0.
post #2 of 20
Hey Harkin -
I'm a 25 in the Icon, close fit and the same size Diablo fits me (I was lucky enough to ski in one of the few pairs in January)... and have some folks that downsized and had to go back up in the Diablo. The toe box is definitely bigger, but volume-wise the boots are actually smaller than the Icon - at least thru the heel, instep and ankle area. I loved them!
post #3 of 20
Ditto. I skied the Diablo Mag in 26.5 (same size as my Icon XT) on Friday. The Diablo Mag is an incredible boot with phenomenal underfoot sensitivity and efficient energy transfer. I prefer plug boots and look forward to a demo of the Diablo Pro but the performance of the Diablo Magnesium is significantly better than the Icon Alu Comp. The Diable Magnesium fits me more snugly than the Icon Comp or Comp Alu from the top of the boot through the ankle and mid arch. Forward of mid arch though it is roomier than it's predecessor(s). I would downsize to 25.5 to ski the Diablo Magnesium.

Keep in mind that Diablo's are not available in the US in all sizes yet and the ones here now are early production. We may see the liners change before next season and fit comments today may not be relevant to the boots available next season.

Aar
post #4 of 20
BTW, what will the XTs look like? Will they be the same mold as 2003-04?
post #5 of 20
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Originally posted by MammothMtnDreamerInJapan:
BTW, what will the XTs look like? Will they be the same mold as 2003-04?
The Icon XT will be replaced by the Diablo Pro. I have not seen a sample but the word is that the boot is completely different. I understand it is no longer a monoblock boot (lower shell rising behind the foot/calf to the full height of the upper shell) and that the upper shell is riveted to the lower shell with two vertical rivets behind the achilles area in addition to the ankle bolts. This is said to result in a stiffer boot. Further, the Diablo Pro's fit is supposed to be lower volume than the Icon XT - more in line with the complete definition of a "plug" boot that needs to be stretched or ground to fit effectively. Some people have said it looks more like a Doberman than an Icon XT.

Aar
post #6 of 20
I've been skiing in the Diablo Race Pro for a few weeks now, and it's a great boot. This boot replaces the consumer Icon XT 17, and is the raciest boot in the consumer listing. There is a true plug version of this boot also.

The Race Pro has a bit more room in the toes, and is also a bit roomier in the heel to instep distance. This measurement is important. Some people are going down a size from the XT to the Race Pro; I actually needed just a little more room, and love the fit.

The geometry is also very different from the XT; the ramp angle is flatter, and the forwrd lean is more forward. This is what determines if a boot will work well with your ankle.
post #7 of 20
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Originally posted by Ski&Skate:
The geometry is also very different from the XT; the ramp angle is flatter, and the forwrd lean is more forward. This is what determines if a boot will work well with your ankle.
If I were going to change anything about my XT17 it would be to increase the forward lean. While I don't feel I need a lower ramp angle that is also welcome. Thanks for the info. The rep in our territiry has a right boot of a pair of Diablo Pros. I have never heard of the Diablo Race Pro are they the same model or is the one without Race in the name the plug version?

Aar
post #8 of 20
The boot your rep has is the Diablo Race Pro - short version it's call the Diablo Pro. The plug boot is the world cup boot and is also referred to as the 'race boot'.
post #9 of 20
Was there any reason the 2003-04 XT24 was not offered at the retail level in the U.S? I am debating whether to wait for the Diablo Pro (retail version) versus upgrading from a XT17.

BTW, does the Diablo Pro have no shaft canting like the XT series or dual canting(twin axis)?
post #10 of 20
MMDIJ, you just want to upgrade for stiffer flex?
post #11 of 20
Yes and in order of priority:

1) stiffness
2) flatter ramp angle (like the retail Saloman Course Series)
3) shaft canting (dual shaft if available)
4) a little more instep room
post #12 of 20
MMDIJ -
Hold off and wait for the Race Pro - it should be the answer to your dreams!
1. stiffness - laterally tons stiffer, fore and aft stiffer
2. flater ramp angle - got it
3. shaft canting - got it
4. instep room - got it
post #13 of 20
Sprspeedgal,

Danka or should I say doumo (arigato) for the post!
post #14 of 20
How's the fit on the Diablo compare to the old Explosion 8's?

I have not upgraded because the Icon series got so roomy, they were huge.

I'm a 23.5 in the Explosion, tried my friends 22 which is a little short in the right big toe (toe curls up).

Will there be a 22 available?
post #15 of 20
There will be a 22 available, although probably not until mid-Fall as the smallest and largest sizes get made last usually when companies intro a new line. The fit will be lower volume than the Icon and you'll find more toe room - so you'll probably be a solid 22 in the Diablo.
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
Have to reply again after being resized this weekend. While the heel and the upper cuff are much narrower, the shell on the Diablo is bigger than on the Icon Carbon. I was shell fit for the second time by a (different) rep and they will be putting me in a 25.5. So I gave up my 26's and am anxiously waiting for my 25.5's to come into the country. The guidence I can give is to make sure a get sized correctly.
post #17 of 20
Hey, is this a pizza-foot boot? small heel/ankle, but very wide forefoot and toes?
I don't like the sound of the high/narrow cuff, but imagine that can be cut down and buckles moved if necessary.
post #18 of 20
Hey Ant -
The Diablo definitely has a nice bit of room in the forefoot and grips the ankle very nicely. I have one of the few 25.5s in the country (sorry Harkin!) and the cuff actually feels a bit lower than the Icon cuff. There is also a spoiler in the back of the cuff that can be lowered or raised, or removed for more cuff space. If you're at Stowe still, you could check w/Ben Wax at Inner Bootworks and see what he thinks.
post #19 of 20
I should have gone to Inner Bootworks ages ago, they do great deals for us, apparently. they have a great reputation. By the time I decided I wasn't going to take my boots home, it was too late to start the dreaded bootfitting ordeal.

they have the soles of boots, with the tops cut off, so you can put your foot in and SEE how the shapes match. I've never seen that before.
post #20 of 20
Anyone have a link to a picture of these boots?
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