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post #1 of 22
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Patrol guys: I've always wondered about this. Is there any data to back the old saw that an inordinate number of injuries take place during skiers' "last run" of the day"? Or is it just that, yeah, it's the last run 'cause, like, they got hurt and can't ski anymore? 

post #2 of 22

:)  That's a question that we should have on the ski area injury paperwork form.  But all I got is anecdotal stuff - where I work we call the last hour of the day the crazy hour.  Particularly during days when there are a lot of visitors, it seems like the shit hits the fan around then.  

post #3 of 22

Not that it means anything in the great scheme of things but last year I injured myself (broke ankle & blew out ACL) on the first run, first day of my trip. I didn't even make it off the lower mountain. Injured myself traversing from the lower mountain lift to the summit lift. Believe it or not I skied down & then drove 5 hrs. back home. It was my drivers leg that was injured. Didn't report the accident to ski patrol so there's no stats on it. It was my last run & last day of the season though.

post #4 of 22

I had a similar experience. Last run of the day in the afternoon (pretty close to closing time) and I have decided to go to the bottom of the hill and go home after that run. Half way down I saw a pretty steep ski racing training slope so I thought "hmm, that could be a way to take me down faster" and not realizing I was pretty tired after a day's hard skiing. When I was bombing down the hill my right quad sorta cramped a bit, I tried to slow down a bit but my leg was not very responsive and caught an edge. That immediately sent me flying down the slope at around 50 mph. Luckily I normally run low DIN (7.5) so both skis released and I just ended up tumbling down the hill for quite a long way...Did not break anything that day. Just twisted the right knee a bit. Went for a check at the hospital the day after and was told nothing was broken~and relief. 

post #5 of 22

I wonder if any statistics will be biased as if you get injured, it will be your last run if the day. W e need some specific criteria to quantify this. Like, "statistically do injuries go up and the day progresses", or, "are there more injuries after the lift takes it's last ride". Even those will be subject to "other" influences.

post #6 of 22
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I had a similar experience. Last run of the day in the afternoon (pretty close to closing time) and I have decided to go to the bottom of the hill and go home after that run. Half way down I saw a pretty steep ski racing training slope so I thought "hmm, that could be a way to take me down faster" and not realizing I was pretty tired after a day's hard skiing. When I was bombing down the hill my right quad sorta cramped a bit, I tried to slow down a bit but my leg was not very responsive and caught an edge. That immediately sent me flying down the slope at around 50 mph. Luckily I normally run low DIN (7.5) so both skis released and I just ended up tumbling down the hill for quite a long way...Did not break anything that day. Just twisted the right knee a bit. Went for a check at the hospital the day after and was told nothing was broken~and relief. 

There's your mistake.  I used to have a rule about never knowingly making a last run. If the lifty told me it was the last run, I would race down to see if I could prove him wrong. 

 

I can't usually do that anymore because my last "last run" is a sweep, but I'm usually skiing slowly enough so as to observe any stranded wounded skiers to not be in much danger of injury.

post #7 of 22
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There's your mistake.  I used to have a rule about never knowingly making a last run. If the lifty told me it was the last run, I would race down to see if I could prove him wrong. 

I can't usually do that anymore because my last "last run" is a sweep, but I'm usually skiing slowly enough so as to observe any stranded wounded skiers to not be in much danger of injury.

Yep. Lesson learned lol
post #8 of 22

Years ago, I met an older skier who was full of wisdom.  He always ended his day after his "second to last run".  What he meant is that when he felt that his legs were good for "one more run", it was time to stop.  I have been heeding his advice for the past 20 years.  Not only did I never get injured skiing, but I rarely ever take a spill.  Previously, most of my falls occurred during that "last run", which I do not take any more.

post #9 of 22

Couple of years ago I ended the season on my first run of the first day of a four-day trip, hyper-extended my right calf.

Well, it was the last run of the day! Oh, have also broken my leg on the last run of the day...twice.

post #10 of 22
Many years ago I spiraled my tibia and fibula on "One more run." I try to stay away from that run now. So far, so good.
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 

I kind of think it's like the stat about most car accidents occurring within a few miles or kilometers of home. Well, considering that every trip starts from home and ends there, of course the chances are best that that's where you'll have an accident. 

post #12 of 22

One of the standing rules of Skiing.  You never make a last run until your at the bottom,that's the last run today.

post #13 of 22

I was told that that was my last run today...does that count?

post #14 of 22
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I was told that that was my last run today...does that count?


Who told you, and why would you believe them?

post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by Pacobillie View Post

Years ago, I met an older skier who was full of wisdom.  He always ended his day after his "second to last run".  What he meant is that when he felt that his legs were good for "one more run", it was time to stop.  I have been heeding his advice for the past 20 years.  Not only did I never get injured skiing, but I rarely ever take a spill.  Previously, most of my falls occurred during that "last run", which I do not take any more.

I do that too. The point I feel I have one more run in me, I tell myself, "No you don't."
post #16 of 22
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Who told you, and why would you believe them?

Well I had to. It was the ski patrol telling me the resort was about to close...
post #17 of 22
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I do that too. The point I feel I have one more run in me, I tell myself, "No you don't."


Absolutely.  I always called it the "rule of two".

post #18 of 22

I will go until I am too tired or the hill is closing.  For those last runs, when I know I am tired and the light is flat I just ski cautiously, maybe work on carving or steering with my big or little toe or some other feel thing.  Not the time to charge for sure.

post #19 of 22
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Patrol guys: I've always wondered about this. Is there any data to back the old saw that an inordinate number of injuries take place during skiers' "last run" of the day"? Or is it just that, yeah, it's the last run 'cause, like, they got hurt and can't ski anymore? 


The trick is NEVER EVER say "This is my last run, I'll see you later"  etc.   Instead say something like " I'm going to take a break now, see you later."

 

NEVER EVER say even to yourself  "This is my last run"  Not even if you know your done for the day.

post #20 of 22

Too many injury stories start with "Well, it was my last run of the day ...".  Whenever I decide "this is my last run" my policy is to make the slowest, cruisey green run (or cat track) descent of the hill I can find.  Usually I'm knackered by then anyway, and a slow trawl down the hill is a welcome relief.

post #21 of 22
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Too many injury stories start with "Well, it was my last run of the day ...".  Whenever I decide "this is my last run" my policy is to make the slowest, cruisey green run (or cat track) descent of the hill I can find.  Usually I'm knackered by then anyway, and a slow trawl down the hill is a welcome relief.


I did my complex tibial plateau fracture when I said it's my last run.  It was my second run on the first day of my season 7 years ago.  (long story)

 

I never say it and I am not superstitious.    Too many stories.....you are right!

post #22 of 22

I have never had any problem having the last run before the lift closes even at 9pm for night skiing. In the case of night skiing I will have an hour food and drink break at 7pm plus on the last run I will go slightly slower. I find if you are on top end gear and you are fit that can compensate for some degree of tiredness. I did have a mate last year though who had a bad knee injury on his last run of the day but he was learning and tried to perhaps make every run just a little faster as he had not fallen all day. Its perhaps the early runs of the day where I have to be careful, but have found once I have worked up a sweat after the first few runs I feel pretty safe for the rest of the day.

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