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Replacing rail mount bindings? Device 311 unindemnified

post #1 of 11
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I have some Device 311 bindings 2002 on an Atomic C8-18 that are non-indemnified or had some recall. I'm pretty sure they're rail mounted from what i've been looking at online. I'm hoping they're not some cheapo one peice bindings that can't be fixed.

 

I don't really want to drill new holes but i will, i was hoping i could slide eveything off the old rails and put just new top parts on leaving the rail connected to the ski? pros and cons to this? or am i way off.

 

The recall was for the heel piece. I've seen some other bindings for sale online that say they come with the needed rail and some don't come with the rail so i'm guessing you can interchange the rails to some extent?

 

Are there diferent rail sizes that i need to match with and how can i find out about mine?

 

probably not worth fixing but i just got the skis for 80$, i've seen the same ones for $125 on ebay so another $50 for ok used bindings and i guess i paid fair price. but then another 40$ for someone else to mount them and i should have went to the retail store in the first place. If nothing else i should be able to replace the whole binding aparatus drilling new holes like normal, right?

post #2 of 11

replace both the bindings...and the skis...it is time...move on and don't look back. 

post #3 of 11

That was a great intermediate ski - back when we were using Pentium desktops.

post #4 of 11
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Would have been great advice for the guy who just sold them to me but I've only had them 2 days and while it still well may be time to get rid of them i'm not willing to give up just yet.

 

They look good, barely used, I believe people when they say they don't use thier skis much. We rode just fine back in the day.I'm sure the bindings do work despite being on an unindemnified list. My skateboard and tennis racket work just fine from ten years ago when we were using pentium desktops. A hammer hasn't changed at all. Now if you said they were great skis before we started using carbon fiber or something that directly effects the performance of skiing that would worry me more. I hate modern cars, I decided this is the last one i will ever buy. Not that i brought the ski's because i'm a crotchety old man, just that newer is not always better.

post #5 of 11
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Would have been great advice for the guy who just sold them to me but I've only had them 2 days and while it still well may be time to get rid of them i'm not willing to give up just yet.

 

They look good, barely used, I believe people when they say they don't use thier skis much. We rode just fine back in the day.I'm sure the bindings do work despite being on an unindemnified list. My skateboard and tennis racket work just fine from ten years ago when we were using pentium desktops. A hammer hasn't changed at all. Now if you said they were great skis before we started using carbon fiber or something that directly effects the performance of skiing that would worry me more. I hate modern cars, I decided this is the last one i will ever buy. Not that i brought the ski's because i'm a crotchety old man, just that newer is not always better.

post #6 of 11
How is the 10 year old gut in that tennis racket? Th difference in the gut and the bindings, is when the gut breaks, the ball just goes into the net...when that binding breaks, it can leave you stranded out on have hill or worse fail when you are skiing and don't worry, you will get a sled ride down to the base and very well a ride to the local medical center. There is a reason that binding is no longer indemnified and more so recalled, they weren't good. You do what you want with the information, but I ski to have fun and if I am gonna be out there, I want to be on the gear that will help me have the most fun. Our total ski days are limited, I want to maximize my enjoyment.

As far as possibly getting rid of them, please let a perspective buyer know that the bindings are no longer indemnified and no shop can or will adjust them. Very well th seller who sold them to you didn't (or did) know but you do know and thus "buyer beware" for the next owner should not apply here. I am not saying you wouldn't do the right thing, just that please do it.
post #7 of 11
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@phil pug- my questions revolve around replacing the binding and if this is possible with keeping the attatched rail system. You havn't given me any information about this. While what you say is offensive, it has nothing to do with anything I'm talking about. Thanks for trying.

 

Go put it into a commercial for a ski shop or something.

post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by browntom View Post

@phil pug- my questions revolve around replacing the binding and if this is possible with keeping the attatched rail system. You havn't given me any information about this. While what you say is offensive, it has nothing to do with anything I'm talking about. Thanks for trying.

Go put it into a commercial for a ski shop or something.
sorry you felt it was offensive, that was not the intent, the intent was to be staring forward. That plat will only take a centric or (maybe a Neox.) you might be able to find some of them.
post #9 of 11
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Thanks, it's more work than i expected. Selling them crossed my min, using them crossed my mind. I got the alc injury advertisment from the bots on my post maybe i should trust the conventional wisdom for a change. you knew all the options, you know your stuff. i'll check those bindings. thats where i was going to go next.

 

I knew they we're most likely the 98-2002 but when i looked for the number i didn't know it was so small. i read the numbers around it but somehow didin't see the middle part with the arrrow. I was prepared to change the bindings before i knew too much anyway.

 

hopefully i can take them apart see what i'm working with, fill in the holes, order some of these you mention and hope they stay sturdy. I had a snowboard that was forever loose, skis would be much worse like that. back then i just used the old holes and no glue of any kind. I'll try to drill this platform, use glue and replace the bindings properly with centric or Neox.

 

despite the ski not being worth much is it a normal platform, why can i only get two types of bindings on there? what about non rail type bindings and such?

post #10 of 11
That place is designed to work with a specific binding and those areas are reinforced for mounting. If you have had ACL work, run away...err hobble away and get something newer.
post #11 of 11
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oh so this is where I realize just what kind of ituation i'm in. damn.

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