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how much of a difference do bindings make? marker griffon 2013 vs anything better ?

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hello

 

so i have a pair of icelantic 170 cm park skis with 2013 marker griffon bindings on them. I was to sell the skis. however what i plan to get to replace them i could theoritically use the same bindings for.

 

however lets say i am getting like an all mountain ski like Scotts "the ski" or maybe the blizzard bonafides.

 

IS it financially smart to sell the skis without the bindings so i dont have to re buy bindings for the new skis i buy? do skis without bindings sell as well? figure i wear a 295mm boot so some people may need to remount them anway. 

 

 

lastly (sorry i dont know this) for something like a blizzard bonafides or volkl mantra or scott "the ski" or something kastle. Whats the difference between say a marker griffon binding vs something more expensive? ie skiing on the mountain in glades etc? if the DIN range is right for me is that it? 

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IS it financially smart to sell the skis without the bindings so i dont have to re buy bindings for the new skis i buy? do skis without bindings sell as well? figure i wear a 295mm boot so some people may need to remount them anway. 

 

 

lastly (sorry i dont know this) for something like a blizzard bonafides or volkl mantra or scott "the ski" or something kastle. Whats the difference between say a marker griffon binding vs something more expensive? ie skiing on the mountain in glades etc? if the DIN range is right for me is that it? 

 

Usually skis with bindings sell easier, unless it's a special and desirable ski that are more difficult to find.  However if you sell them with bindings, you then either have to buy new bindings or find a good deal on another used set.  I think often times it ends up being a wash from the perspective of net cost to you.  By that I mean this... let me throw out some fake #'s that in no way indicate what your skis are worth, just illustrating a point.

 

You can sell skis+bindings for $400, thinking that the skis are worth about $250 and the bindings about $150.  If you only sell the skis, someone might only pay $200 knowing that they have to go get bindings.  However if you sell the package for $400, you then have to go buy new bindings for $200, giving you a net gain of $200.  As I said, a wash.  Whether that's true for your situation is something you would need to evaluate.

 

To answer your second question, there are subtle differences between different bindings out there and some people have strong preferences for one vs another (for example, better elasticity in Look bindings).  Myself, I find the differences to be subtle enough that I don't have any real preferences and usually buy whatever I can find the best deal on at the time that's at least 12 DIN (below 12 DIN you'll find a noticeable step down in features and construction from all manufacturers, those bindings are mostly geared towards beginners, children, etc).

 

Just my $.02.

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thanks alot!

 

the real question was if theres any special features. i think ill just keep them together because most places offer a deal around here if i buy bindings and get them mounted there.

 

what do you mean better elasticity?

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thanks alot!

 

the real question was if theres any special features. i think ill just keep them together because most places offer a deal around here if i buy bindings and get them mounted there.

 

what do you mean better elasticity?

 

I missed the part of your question that said what's the difference between the griffons and something more expensive.  That's where you meant special features?  No, in general with bindings more $ primarily mean a higher DIN and more burly construction (more metal, less plastic, etc.).

 

Elasticity in a binding refers to its ability to let the boot deflect a little bit but then return back to center rather than releasing.  Bindings with better elasticity are less likely to release from short, quick impacts.  This is a trait that some people like because those bindings are a little less likely to pre-release (i.e. release when the skier doesn't want them too).  My opinion is that these kinds of differences between bindings are pretty subtle and they don't drive *my* purchasing decisions.  I've skied Look, Salomon, Tyrolia and Marker in recent years and haven't had issues with any of them.  I know for a fact that not everyone on here agrees with me as some people have strong binding preferences.  So take what I say (or what anyone says honestly) with a grain of salt.


Edited by jaobrien6 - 10/17/13 at 9:36pm
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