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post #31 of 36

Of course the expert terrain gets all the headlines but I thought Jackson had some great intermediate terrain, especially the Apres Vous side of the mountain. 

post #32 of 36

...and ApresVous is just one chair with maybe 3 official groomed blues off it(?) plus steeper stuff on the other side.  The terrain is fine but the volume of mild runs isn't huge which is my point.  And this is where "lesser" resorts get to score higher, unless TPJ was suggesting I was high for calling Breckenridge a lesser resort?:duck:

post #33 of 36

Casper...  All new, All Blue!  

 

JHMR just completely redid the Casper area for last season.  There is a high speed quad that gets you to the top in a few minutes.  Huge chunks of the terrain were regraded and snow making was largely expanded.  I can do 10,000 vert in an hour without trying too hard.  The entire Apres Vous side of the resort is blue and features a high speed quad and long cruising runs.  The Gondola and Thunder have great cruising runs.  Sublette is more limited for this type of skier, but it is worth doing the long cruise along the South edge of the resort and checking out Rocksprings and the other OB areas from the ships prow on Rendezvous trail.  The truth about The Tram is that your only obsticale is Rendezvous bowl which is not that long and can be "sneaked" on the Far Drift side on a lot of days.  It is also possible to get your eyes on Rendezvous Bowl from Rendezvous trail before going up The Tram.  In fact JHMR is laid out in such a way that most of the challenging runs can be scoped out really well before getting into them.  If you don't believe me, check out Bob Peters unofficial guide to JH.

 

I assume that you are being facetious about the umbrella bar halfway up the gondola.  Anyway it's not needed.  There are outside bars and food, weather permitting, at the TOP of the Gondola and at Casper Restaurant.  As to how we are doing marketing wise...  We are the number 1 resort in the country this year.  That's not an accident, there has been a company wide push in recent years to increase our level of guest service.  It's a reader poll and I take the results to mean that enough people visited JHMR and had their expectations exceeded that they took the time to fill out the survey.  Given that so much of the market is non-expert, this tells me that there must have been a good number of intermediate skiers who came to JHMR and had a great vacation.

 

I work full time at JHMR as a snow-sports instructor.  I mostly teach upper level adult group ski lessons.  I have met a lot of intermediate European skiers.  There is a lot of terrain here for them and a good bit of off piste that they can work with to develop skills for harder challenges.  In my opinion,  there is enough terrain here to easily keep this sort of skier busy for a week.  


Edited by tetonpwdrjunkie - 10/22/13 at 9:22am
post #34 of 36
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
 

Casper...  All new, All Blue!  

 

JHMR just completely redid the Casper area for last season.  There is a high speed quad that gets you to the top in a few minutes.  Huge chunks of the terrain were regraded and snow making was largely expanded.  I can do 10,000 vert in an hour without trying too hard.  The entire Apres Vous side of the resort is blue and features a high speed quad and long cruising runs.  The Gondola and Thunder have great cruising runs.  Sublette is more limited for this type of skier, but it is worth doing the long cruise along the South edge of the resort and checking out Rocksprings and the other OB areas from the ships prow on Rendezvous trail.  The truth about The Tram is that your only obsticale is Rendezvous bowl which is not that long and can be "sneaked" on the Far Drift side on a lot of days.  It is also possible to get your eyes on Rendezvous Bowl from Rendezvous trail before going up The Tram.  In fact JHMR is laid out in such a way that most of the challenging runs can be scoped out really well before getting into them.  If you don't believe me, check out Bob Peters unofficial guide to JH.

 

I assume that you are being facetious about the umbrella bar halfway up the gondola.  Anyway it's not needed.  There are outside bars and food, weather permitting, at the TOP of the Gondola and at Casper Restaurant.  As to how we are doing marketing wise...  We are the number 1 resort in the country this year.  That's not an accident, there has been a company wide push in recent years to increase our level of guest service.  It's a reader poll and I take the results to mean that enough people visited JHMR and had the expectations exceeded that they took the time to fill out the survey.  Given that so much of the market is non-expert, this tells me that there must have been a good number of intermediate skiers who came to JHMR and had a great vacation.

 

I work full time at JHMR as a snow-sports instructor.  I mostly teach upper level adult group ski lessons.  I have meet a lot of intermediate European skiers.  There is a lot of terrain here for them and a good bit of off piste that they can work with to develop skills for harder challenges.  In my opinion,  there is enough terrain here to easily keep this sort of skier busy for a week.  

 

Yes, I have noticed a number of European skiers there the past two seasons especially. I have a pretty small sample size, as I am a visitor, but it was noticeable.

post #35 of 36
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...and ApresVous is just one chair with maybe 3 official groomed blues off it(?) plus steeper stuff on the other side.  The terrain is fine but the volume of mild runs isn't huge which is my point.  And this is where "lesser" resorts get to score higher, unless TPJ was suggesting I was high for calling Breckenridge a lesser resort?:duck:

By Apres Vous side I mean to the lookers right of the gondola (i.e. Not Rendezvous Mountain).  The Casper lift has some FANTASTIC blue cruisers.  Actually the only lift I see on the map without a single intermediate run is the tram.  The only thing the resort might come up short in is beginner terrain but unless you are a terminal beginner like my wife that shouldn't be an issue for most.

post #36 of 36

I'm deadly serious about the umbrella bar - maybe not the location but I've never seen anywhere in North America do something like the Mooserwirt/ Folie Douce etc (OK I skied past the Chickpea in Whistler once during Gay Ski week...).  I suspect there are too many liability/lease issues in allowing guests to get very very rowdy then ski down after hours...and plus it made a change from the boring how do you rate the quality of the groomers questions.

 

I'm partially teasing, of course, about the rest and must admit though I've been to Jackson a few times I've not been lucky in getting the best conditions (1 trip where I broke my leg at Snowbasin on the day before we drove up to Jackson, then New Year 2012 which was still a bit patchy).  I guess Casper would open up quite a lot.of intermediate terrain.  

 

But you really wouldn't believe unless you've spent a while in big Euro areas how many people equate quality of ski experience with km of piste of "their grade" even if that means mile after mile of dull cattracks or a series of parallel groomers down the same bowl. I'd say Jackson does have a lot to distinguish itself in the North American market and clearly has a name recogntion that only a couple of dozen ski resorts worldwide have. The no 1 crown even from Ski magazine clearly means that something is resonating with the recreational audience even if skigeeks kinda yawn about it.  More power to you TPJ if you're giving people the toolkit to move on to inbounds ungroomed which is surely the biggest reason to ski JHMR. 

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