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post #31 of 52
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For me, I'm the "what's over the next hill/what's around the next curve" type, so I usually opt for the "explore" choice. 

Me too, as evidenced by the 182 area count. But

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I have 500 + days at snowbird, I have yet to ski everything there I have wanted to ski.  

 I still find something new at Snowbird each year.

 

It depends on many things, how long the areas are, how far apart for driving, relocating, etc.  At new places, I try to "survey ski," meaning ski all terrain pods, look around carefully to try what's representative, make mental notes if there's a lot more there which I would to explore further.   This is more difficult if you get bad weather on the first day somewhere.  Advance research, skiing with someone who's been there before helps.  I had skied before all of the 13 new areas Liz saw on that Montana + Powder Highway trip of 2 1/2 weeks last season, so I think she got a good view of them.

 

Where there are many resorts concentrated in a small geographic area (I-70, Utah, Tahoe) a "daily decision" based upon snow , weather, crowd expectations makes sense.

post #32 of 52

If you have people in your group who know the different area well, like in the Gathering; 3 or 4 areas in 4 days would be fun.  

If everybody is new to the region and don't know where they are going, one a area per day is just living in the land of the lost being led by a blind guy.

post #33 of 52

Never got an answer to my questions . . . 

 

Seems like there are places in the northeast where sampling over 4 days would make more sense, especially for a first trip with the intention to return in the near future.  Suppose someone moved to Boston in January and wanted to go exploring in early March.  Where would be a good place to start with 4 mountains within <3 hour drive in between?  How about the same scenario from New York City?  Let's say that there is not an issue with paying for a decent but not luxury motel room in a different place every night.

post #34 of 52

I did a day at each (on a 4 day VisitSaltLake pass) first time I went to Utah. Starting on a Sunday so went for Soli as I'd heard it would be quietest.  To be fair the snow was far from the Greatest on Earth that week, there was a fair amount of refrozen death cookies.  If it had been powder hitting Alta/Bird each day would have been more attractive

post #35 of 52
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Well yes, but it was a theoretical question using the Cottonwood area as an example only. The presumption that I am actually taking a trip to SLC and seeking advice has erroneously crept into this thread. I was really interested in peoples preferences as to the structure of a trip with regards to the pros and cons of visiting a new resort every day. My bad, I probably should have worded it more clearly.

The OP was clarified somewhere into the discussion . . . not just about SLC.  Guess I should just start a new thread.

post #36 of 52

Oh shit - didn't realise this was a resurrected thread sorry

post #37 of 52
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Oh shit - didn't realise this was a resurrected thread sorry

No problem.  Bet there are plenty of folks who never saw the thread last year.  You know . . . the ones who haven't been to SLC and wonder how to go about it because there are so many choices. :)

post #38 of 52

Went to Colorado since I last posted in this thread.

 

If I had 4 days of skiing I'd do two resorts two days each.   I just love exploring these places so much and want to see as much as possible.   At Copper when I skied a run I already skied, unless I just loved the trail, I found myself getting frustrated that I was wasting time instead of finding something new each run.

post #39 of 52

I have done it both ways: skied form SLC at Alta. Snowbird, Solitude, Powder Mtn.  Last year I stayed in a condo at Snowbird and  skied Alta/BIrd for 5 days...no car rental and no driving was nice.  Season before last we stayed in Ogden and skied Alta 1 day and Powder Mtn. the next 3 or 4 because they were getting a lot more snow than anywhere else in the region.

 

I have done same in CO. Stayed in Frisco and skied Copper, Vail, Breck and Vail again.  I have done similar trips with different mixes of areas including A basin and Loveland.  Either way is a lot of fun.  If you have never been to a region before I think it is a good idea to sample the areas and then maybe go back again in a few years to the ones you like the most.

 

Regarding marznc post, there are several regions: Mad River Valley for Sugarbush, MRG, and Stowe; North Conway NH is close to a bunch of areas: back to VT there is the southern /central region with Killington, Okemo, Magic, etc...  Maine with Saddleback and Sugarloaf (OK only 2 areas but they are good ones) and last but not least Quebec is wonderful place to visit and ski and IMO worth the drive.  Regarding Quebec, I keep a close eye on the freeze thaw cycles and sometimes they are far enough north to avoid the thaw, yet close enough that they get frozen precipitation from the same storms that are raining down onto northern New England.  THis is when it is really worth the drive.  Though I suppose coming from NC you may want to consider flying instead!

 

Your best option may be to join the NE Gathering which seems like it will either be based near Stowe or some of the bigger NH areas this March and always includes knowledgeable locals to show us around.

post #40 of 52
Good scoop above from Crank for Marznc. If thinking about doing this in mid-late March then southern VT might not be optimal. N. Conway has big outlet shopping district that might be fun for non or light skiers and things are generally less expensive in NH in all ways. Would recommend branching out for a day at Cannon Mtn if in that part of NH. You know all about how good a "gathering" can be if you're availble for the one KevinF is coordinating for N. VT next March. I did a "ski sampling" visit to Quebec City once that was great fun. Stayed in old town and commuted for skiing at MSA and Le Massif. Stoneham ski area is also nearby. Apres ski or rest day activities in the historic quarter of Quebec City can't be beat by a small resort town in the mtns.
post #41 of 52
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Went to Colorado since I last posted in this thread.

 

If I had 4 days of skiing I'd do two resorts two days each.   I just love exploring these places so much and want to see as much as possible.   At Copper when I skied a run I already skied, unless I just loved the trail, I found myself getting frustrated that I was wasting time instead of finding something new each run.

 

It's interesting how different it is skiing your home mountain vs. visiting a new mountain.    At Copper, my home mountain, I not only ski the same runs over and over, but also my favorite lines on those runs over and over.  I've tried the rest and I like mine best!

 

On an oddly related note... I figured out my favorite Chipolte burrito almost 20 years ago in grad school at DU by their first restaurant.   I had that exact same burrito for dinner last night.  :)

post #42 of 52
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It's interesting how different it is skiing your home mountain vs. visiting a new mountain.    At Copper, my home mountain, I not only ski the same runs over and over, but also my favorite lines on those runs over and over.  I've tried the rest and I like mine best!

 

On an oddly related note... I figured out my favorite Chipolte burrito almost 20 years ago in grad school at DU by their first restaurant.   I had that exact same burrito for dinner last night.  :)

Hmm burritos and skiing. AFTERBURNER ENGAGED.

post #43 of 52
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It's interesting how different it is skiing your home mountain vs. visiting a new mountain.    At Copper, my home mountain, I not only ski the same runs over and over, but also my favorite lines on those runs over and over. 

 

You are a bump skier, aren't you?:cool

I feel the same way about Loveland, and the ever-elusive zipper lines on Nix Nox.

 

OP, if you can arrange to ski with a local who will oblige to show you the goods at a given resort, I would opt for that over trying to find the goods on your own, single or multiple days. As far as the Cottonwoods, I'd probably let the daily snowfall totals dictate where I ski, and still try to hook up with a local.

post #44 of 52

I agree with the statement from earlier in the thread (like a year earlier), that I'm always wondering what's beyond the next turn, or on the trail next to where I'm skiing.  I very rarely ski the same run twice in a day.  Unless I run out of trails, of course.  When I spent 5 days in CO last year, except for a few connecting trails and run outs to the lift, I'm pretty sure I didn't ski the same run twice.

 

The same applies for mountains as it does for trails.  I loved going someplace different every day.

post #45 of 52

In response to the northeastern part of the question, I would be pushed strongly to the "explore" side of the debate:

1) I don't live there; I have had one mid-season trip where I skied 7 areas in 7 days. 

2) The areas are not as large, so more likely to see nearly everything and ski what's good in one day.

post #46 of 52
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It's interesting how different it is skiing your home mountain vs. visiting a new mountain.    At Copper, my home mountain, I not only ski the same runs over and over, but also my favorite lines on those runs over and over.  I've tried the rest and I like mine best!

 

On an oddly related note... I figured out my favorite Chipolte burrito almost 20 years ago in grad school at DU by their first restaurant.   I had that exact same burrito for dinner last night.  :)

 

So true..   At my local areas in MN I ski the same 4 runs over and over again and hardly ever hit any others.   If I were to go back to Copper or Loveland I now know runs I absolutely love and would definitely ski them again (likely multiple times), and also now know which areas to avoid.   I wouldn't know that info without exploring the areas like I did however.

post #47 of 52
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Regarding marznc post, there are several regions: Mad River Valley for Sugarbush, MRG, and Stowe; North Conway NH is close to a bunch of areas: back to VT there is the southern /central region with Killington, Okemo, Magic, etc...  Maine with Saddleback and Sugarloaf (OK only 2 areas but they are good ones) and last but not least Quebec is wonderful place to visit and ski and IMO worth the drive.  Regarding Quebec, I keep a close eye on the freeze thaw cycles and sometimes they are far enough north to avoid the thaw, yet close enough that they get frozen precipitation from the same storms that are raining down onto northern New England.  THis is when it is really worth the drive.  Though I suppose coming from NC you may want to consider flying instead!

 

Your best option may be to join the NE Gathering which seems like it will either be based near Stowe or some of the bigger NH areas this March and always includes knowledgeable locals to show us around.

Unfortunately, none of the gatherings fit into my schedule this season.  The reason for wandering around the northeast to satisfy my curiosity (and pad my ski area history count ;) ) is that I have a reason to drive up to Lake Placid a couple times during ski season for a few years.  The dates are fixed so can't really storm chase too much.  Last season I checked out Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Plattekille, and a few places in eastern PA.  Trying to decide if driving all the way up to Saddleback and Sugarloaf is really worth it.  Might wait until after I explore the places a bit closer to the NY Thruway.  Not about to get on an airplane with my skis unless I'm headed out west. 

 

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In response to the northeastern part of the question, I would be pushed strongly to the "explore" side of the debate:

1) I don't live there; I have had one mid-season trip where I skied 7 areas in 7 days. 

2) The areas are not as large, so more likely to see nearly everything and ski what's good in one day.

Yep, definitely taking the sampling approach in the northeast.  One of the ways I'll decide where to go is whether or not I can find a friendly local to hook up with for a few runs, or at least to get some inside info beforehand.  Most ski days will be mid-week so I won't have to worry about crowds.

post #48 of 52
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Unfortunately, none of the gatherings fit into my schedule this season.  The reason for wandering around the northeast to satisfy my curiosity (and pad my ski area history count ;) ) is that I have a reason to drive up to Lake Placid a couple times during ski season for a few years.  The dates are fixed so can't really storm chase too much.  Last season I checked out Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Plattekille, and a few places in eastern PA.  Trying to decide if driving all the way up to Saddleback and Sugarloaf is really worth it.  Might wait until after I explore the places a bit closer to the NY Thruway.  Not about to get on an airplane with my skis unless I'm headed out west. 

 

Yep, definitely taking the sampling approach in the northeast.  One of the ways I'll decide where to go is whether or not I can find a friendly local to hook up with for a few runs, or at least to get some inside info beforehand.  Most ski days will be mid-week so I won't have to worry about crowds.

 

If you're flexible and can go when conditions are worth it, a Cannon/Wildcat/Saddleback/Sugarloaf road trip would be an outstanding way to spend a long weekend.

post #49 of 52
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Unfortunately, none of the gatherings fit into my schedule this season.  The reason for wandering around the northeast to satisfy my curiosity (and pad my ski area history count ;) ) is that I have a reason to drive up to Lake Placid a couple times during ski season for a few years.  The dates are fixed so can't really storm chase too much.  Last season I checked out Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Plattekille, and a few places in eastern PA.  Trying to decide if driving all the way up to Saddleback and Sugarloaf is really worth it.  Might wait until after I explore the places a bit closer to the NY Thruway.  Not about to get on an airplane with my skis unless I'm headed out west. 

 

Yep, definitely taking the sampling approach in the northeast.  One of the ways I'll decide where to go is whether or not I can find a friendly local to hook up with for a few runs, or at least to get some inside info beforehand.  Most ski days will be mid-week so I won't have to worry about crowds.

I have driven from Lake Placid to jay Peak.  You head north on 87 and cross Lake Champlain just before the Canadian border.  From there is is all farmland until you start climbing 4Rt. 242 to Jay in Montogmery.  Takes close to 3 hours.  Stowe is a different route and will take a bit less drive time.  Maine is pretty far out of the way for you I agree.

post #50 of 52
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Unfortunately, none of the gatherings fit into my schedule this season.  The reason for wandering around the northeast to satisfy my curiosity (and pad my ski area history count ;) ) is that I have a reason to drive up to Lake Placid a couple times during ski season for a few years.  The dates are fixed so can't really storm chase too much.  Last season I checked out Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre, Plattekille, and a few places in eastern PA.  Trying to decide if driving all the way up to Saddleback and Sugarloaf is really worth it.  Might wait until after I explore the places a bit closer to the NY Thruway.  Not about to get on an airplane with my skis unless I'm headed out west. 

 

Yep, definitely taking the sampling approach in the northeast.  One of the ways I'll decide where to go is whether or not I can find a friendly local to hook up with for a few runs, or at least to get some inside info beforehand.  Most ski days will be mid-week so I won't have to worry about crowds.

I have driven from Lake Placid to jay Peak.  You head north on 87 and cross Lake Champlain just before the Canadian border.  From there is is all farmland until you start climbing 4Rt. 242 to Jay in Montogmery.  Takes close to 3 hours.  Stowe is a different route and will take a bit less drive time.  Maine is pretty far out of the way for you I agree.

Jay is on the list of possibilities for the drive up in early March.  I've driven across that way before but in the summer time.

 

I took the Essex-Charlotte ferry from VT across Lake Champlain when I went from Stowe to Lake Placid last March.  That was fun.  Enjoyed watching the ducks wait until the last minute before getting out of the way in the narrow channel of open water cut into the ice for the ferry.

 

It's about 800 miles from central NC to Lake Placid.  I've driven in it all in one long day at times.  I drive 4 hours to ski for a few days at my "home mountain."  So nothing in New England seems beyond reach.  The problem is more that there are too many places I'd like to check out. :)

post #51 of 52

I'm guessing Marznc has a passport and if sampling Jay Peak, then Mont Sutton and Owl's Head are both within about 45 minutes and come into play.  Staying in a town like Newport might work well in that scenario.  I have a memory of driving through that area on the way to Quebec City and found the most incredibly flavorful and textured bread products in a nondescript bakery in nearby Sherbrooke.

post #52 of 52
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I'm guessing Marznc has a passport and if sampling Jay Peak, then Mont Sutton and Owl's Head are both within about 45 minutes and come into play.  Staying in a town like Newport might work well in that scenario.  I have a memory of driving through that area on the way to Quebec City and found the most incredibly flavorful and textured bread products in a nondescript bakery in nearby Sherbrooke.

Yep, have a passport.  Too many good choices!

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