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Minimum cant angle

post #1 of 8
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Pretty simple question.  If there is only a small deviation from the perpendicular in a skier's boot without canting, at what point might canting not be worth the small adjustment?  What is the minimum angle at which a skier would still feel comfortable and controlled without canting?

post #2 of 8

not really that simple a question, it depends a lot on the individual, normally we work in increments of 0.5 degree, i know many people who feel out of balance with an adjustment of that amount and many more who felt no difference from 2 degrees one way to the same amount the other... (in one case it showed in their skiing but they couldn't feel the difference... which makes me wonder how they got as good as they were)

 

how much is your minimal amount?

post #3 of 8
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Not telling until a few more responses. :-p

I gather it would also matter if we're talking about the inside or outside angle?

Also assume we're not talking about an aspiring racer but rather a recreational all-mountain skier.
post #4 of 8

schismist,

 

For recreational skiing we don't worry about anything at or below .05 degrees one way or the other----as CEM said, most can't feel the difference at that level.

 

mike

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Not telling until a few more responses. :-p
 

to be honest i have a business to run, we give the advice here for free, so (however much humor is intended) most of us don't have time to play  guess the boot fitting angle games

post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by CEM View Post
 

to be honest i have a business to run, we give the advice here for free, so (however much humor is intended) most of us don't have time to play  guess the boot fitting angle games


Wow.  It was simply my intention that the thread be more useful to everyone on here rather than just me, who happens to be between 1.5 and 2 degrees inside on my left and 1 degree inside on my right.  Sorry you felt I was wasting your time.

post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by schismist View Post
 

Pretty simple question.  If there is only a small deviation from the perpendicular in a skier's boot without canting, at what point might canting not be worth the small adjustment?  What is the minimum angle at which a skier would still feel comfortable and controlled without canting?

 

It depends on the individual and the application. We will cant boots to a 1.25 degree or .75 degree, but rarely anything that is less than .5 degrees.

 

For some people, the line between too much and not enough is very fine and others have a bigger sweetspot.

 

For most people who ski on skis of different widths, .5 degrees is usually a minimum.

 

jl

post #8 of 8

in answer to your question at between 1 and 2 degrees i would be looking to make some form of adjustment, it would depend on what you were looking to get out of your skiing, as i said in the early post there are many people out there who wouldn't tell the difference, but for those who felt that they weren't balanced over the skis i would be definitely considering what could be done

 

next issue, what boots/skis??? there are a number of ways to externally cant a boot... solid soled boot , sole planing, various models with replaceable soles can have shims inserted between the replaceable part and the main body of the shell, and if that is not possible and you have a ski with a flat mounted binding (as opposed to something on rails) then you could wedge the binding

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