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Line Prophet 98 vs Sick Day 95

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I'm trying to decide between these two skis Line Prophet 98 vs Sick Day 95 for this year's one ski quiver.  I'm 6'3 215 lbs intermediate/advanced skier and ski in Colorado (Keystone/Vail Mostly).  I ski mostly in the bowls and backsides.  Ski at speed at times but bumps and the steeps would be more of the target with these skis. Given my weight would I be better suite in the Prophet 98 which has the metal inlay?  Will the metal require more work to stay center on top of the ski?  Would the Sick Day 95 be a ski that would require a little less effort and be more fun to ski?

 

Any input is greatly appreciated?

post #2 of 14

At 220 I ski the Influnce 105, and have owned the P100, as well as skied the P98. None are hard to ski, and I'm sure you would prefer the extra meat, and torsional rigidity to the Sick Day. Sick day basically looks like a Flite version of the 98.

post #3 of 14

The prophet is a very easy going ski... not demanding by any means in my opinion! But I'm afraid that even the longest size 186cm might be on the short side for a guy your size! They should be really a 184cm give or take tip to tape and they ski short...

 

but the P98 is really fun ski, easy to drive, I'm sure you will have no issues with the 186cm P98

 

never skied the sick day though, can't really compare...

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies.  Glad to hear both of you think its not a ski that requires a lot of effort since that was my main worry and I was leaning towards the Prophet 98 due to the increased rigidity.   Flexing the SD it did not feel like a really soft ski which is why it was still in the running combined with the great reviews it received so far but given my size the Prophet would probably make more sense

post #5 of 14

I haven't skied the Sick Day, but the Prophet 98 is super easy to ski, very forgiving, won't punish you for getting a little lazy, and is super fun.

You may or may not go wrong with the Sick Day(?), but I find it very hard to imagine you would be disappointed with the Prophet 98.

They've been popular for several years now for a reason, ya know.  Thumbs Up

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 

I see you have the 4frnt Cody's and typed them into the search bar and saw your great reviw.  I was also looking at these but for sake of the forum post I was curious if anyone had any input on the new SD line.  I was curious what you thought of the flex of the Cody's vs the Prophet?  Do you think the Cody's could hold up to an extra 50+ lbs I have over you?  I'm looking for a playful nimble ski as you describe the Cody's so I'd love to hear your thoughts if you wouldn't mind!

post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by ty25james View Post
 

I see you have the 4frnt Cody's and typed them into the search bar and saw your great reviw.  I was also looking at these but for sake of the forum post I was curious if anyone had any input on the new SD line.  I was curious what you thought of the flex of the Cody's vs the Prophet?  Do you think the Cody's could hold up to an extra 50+ lbs I have over you?  I'm looking for a playful nimble ski as you describe the Cody's so I'd love to hear your thoughts if you wouldn't mind!

 

Nope, I don't mind at all.

The day I demoed the Codys was a day they were designed for...or close to it...about 6-7" of fresh on a firmish base.  Once it gets deeper or the snow gets wetter, the Codys I now have prove to be just a tad too soft in the nose.  They also are prone to a bit of tip dive.  I'm no expert on ski build, but I also think the early rise is a tad too abrupt.  So, the result is that in denser PNW/coastal snow, the tip can fold up when it encounters a pile or berm of snow instead of riding up and over...or through.  It sent me over the handlebars face first down the mountain about a dozen times last year.  :(

 

All that said, I still love them.  They're great for soft cut-up crud up to 8" or so...which is most days when ya think about it.  They're a blast in those conditions, but even in the 186 length, I'm afraid you would find it easy to overpower them given your size. 

I got this year's Super-7 for deep and/or wet snow days.

 

One caveat to my cautionary note is that 4FRNT stiffened up the nose on this year's Cody about 10%, but I'm not sure even that would be enough for you...although I'd love to give it a try myself.  I also demoed the 4FRNT Turbo and really liked it...it was my 2nd favorite out of a dozen or so I tried that year.  They don't make the Turbo anymore, but their new Devastator looks like it might be close to what the Turbo was...a pseudo-replacement.  If you read my review, you saw that the Turbo was burlier, more chargy, not quite as nimble...but still a helluva lotta fun!  I would have bought it had I not taken out the Cody the next day.  The Devastator sounds like it is much the same, and the added stoutness would probably be perfect for the 50lbs you have on me.

 

I've really like the 4FRNT skis I've tried, but I would really encourage you to demo the new Cody or Devastator before pulling the trigger on either one.  OTOH, I'm as comfortable as one can be on a forum such as this...not knowing you and all...recommending taking the plunge on the Prophet-98.  As I said, I'm as certain as I can be under this format that you'll be at least pretty pleased with them.  They're more of a crowd-pleaser than the 4FRNTs...which are great if they suit you specifically, but the P-98 seems to suit a wider audience.

IAC, Good Luck with the decision!  

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thank you everyone for the awesome input.  Given that I probably won't be able to demo anything and I'm itching to get something picked up, I decided to pick up the Prophet 98 (due to my size and good reviews) and Salomon STH2 WTR13 bindings and am pretty excited.  I'll report back in a few months on thoughts.


Edited by ty25james - 10/15/13 at 3:30pm
post #9 of 14

Last season in Utah I demoed the P98's (as well as some of the other popular players in this width) and they really shined.  They are biased towards the nimble, versatile side of the equation handling both varying speeds and conditions without complaints.  A very fun, energetic ski as mentioned above, like letting a puppy off the leash. Good luck with your purchase.

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by ty25james View Post
 

Thank you everyone for the awesome input.  Given that I probably won't be able to demo anything and I'm itching to get something picked up, I decided to pick up the Prophet 98 (due to my size and good reviews) and Salomon STH2 WTR13 bindings and am pretty excited.  I'll report back in a few months on thoughts.

 

I think that you did well.  At your size, I think that the Prophet 98 is a much better fit.  If you are a strong skier, at 2 bills+, you might just fold the Sick Day 95.  I demo'd the Sick Day 95 last spring, and notwithstanding the current cover of Skiing, and the general trend of reviews, I was pretty underwhelmed.  Everyone I demo'd with loved the Sick Day 110, but I couldn't get on the 110.  So I took out the 95.  It is basically the feel of a Bacon in a more narrow, less forward mounted package.  I'll bet that the layup is just like the Bacon because the snow feel was very similar.  And like the Bacon (and unlike the Prophet/Influence series), it skis really short and feels really light (borderline insubstantial).

 

For that shape, at that width, for me, I found it way too light, not enough ski in heavy, junky snow.  It was fine on groomers, I guess, but there are so many skis that are better in that domain (including the P98).  Just not my style, but for a lighter skier, or someone who really goes for light/snappy, it might make sense.  And I think that Sick Day idea makes way more sense in the 110 profile - basically a more directional Bacon.  I'd like to try that (I think that the Bacon in 184 is all right, I get it, it is fun, just not my flavor).  Also, to be fair to Line, they only had a 179 available, so I skied the SD95 kind of short (but I really like the 179 in the Prophets and Influence 105 and don't feel a need to size up to 186 in either of those at 5'11", 185).  So the length may have had something to do with it, but I've tried a lot of skis a slot shorter than I'd buy and the good ones still hold up, even if the length is noticeably suboptimal.

 

At 95-100, for light and snappy, all mountain with a soft snow bias, personally, I think that either the Nordica Soul Rider or the Atomic Access are far better executed implementations of the same general idea.   And I'd like to try the Sin 7 because I thought the Soul 7 was stellar.  But, take my comments with a grain of salt for sure, because I really like the Influence 105, which is a totally different direction, and I ski most of the time on Bonafides.  So I have been reluctant to trash the Sick Day 95 because I understand that it is totally outside of my preference zone.  But I am still kind of shocked that people loved the SD 95 so much because I don't get it, even after accounting for my biases.

 

So I think that you did well with the P98.  Don't look back.  If the Sick Day series still speaks to you, go for the 125 as your powder ski.  For that scenario, the Sick Day makes a ton of sense to me.

post #11 of 14

I had a chance to demo the P98's early last year.  I'm 6' 210lbs.  I really liked them.  In fact, out of the five different skis I demoed at the time, they were my second favorite behind the Volkl Mantra.  I went with the Mantras primarily because I loved the way they feel even in shitty hardpack approaching icy conditions, in addition to great performance in the other areas I was concerned about. 

 

Kudos on the purchase!  I'm confident you will be very happy with the P98's.  :)

 

It can certainly be a little tricky to shop for skis when you are an advanced/expert who weighs in excess of 200.  This is mostly because reviews of the products will be primarily from the perspective of the medium weight body type; so closer to say, 175lbs or so.  Because of that, what is typically coined as a 'stiff' ski will certainly not feel especially stiff to the larger body type person.  Speaking of the Mantra, I know that model has a long reputation of being very stiff for an all-mountain mid-fat, and I can definitely see how you'd feel that way if you were skiing them at the same length as me but 30 or 40 pounds less mass to put behind them. 


Edited by herbiebug - 11/5/13 at 7:27pm
post #12 of 14

I thought I'd post up my impressions of the Line Prophet 98 in case anyone else is contemplating buying these skis.  So far I've got 4 days on the Line Prophet 98s that I bought at the end of the 12/13 season from skis.com (wasn't enough snow to ski 'em til this Month), and my initial impression is that they are AWESOME.  I made a leap of faith based on reviews and didn't demo these skis before buying, (don't even know if they can be demo'd as I've never seen them on any Demo racks or even in any of the local shops).  I DON'T for one minute regret buying these over a pair of Blizzards or Volkls because they not only were over $100 less they work awesome for me.  These skis are a joy to rip up anything I can find on the mountain and the 186cm length is perfect of a big guy like myself 6'1" Clydesdale.  The first 2 days I had these out were just on some groomers and small bumps at Eldora and since then I've taken them all over Breck (T-bar, Windows, etc.) and Abasin, bumps, trees, groomers, crud you name it they do great.  Not a real Pow ski, but they'll work if you left the pow skis at home and happen upon a surprise pow day.  I love my 185cm BD Justices on a POW day but there hasn't been another ski that I've skied in the last 25 years that I've like as much as these Line Prophet 98s (I have fond memories of K2s 5500s that I skied in the early 90s in the Northeast, but I probably wouldn't want to ski those today).

post #13 of 14
The only thing I wish my P98 had is a little more body! I'm thrown around too easily in crud and other not so great conditions!

Looking forward to checking out next year's supernatural 100!
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by mfa81 View Post

The only thing I wish my P98 had is a little more body! I'm thrown around too easily in crud and other not so great conditions!

Looking forward to checking out next year's supernatural 100!

 

Yup, looks like they had you in mind with the supernatural.  First look at them here:  http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2014-2015-line-supernatural-108   

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