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2013-2014 Colorado/New Mexico Weather Discussion - Page 8post #211 of 125512/4/13 at 6:54pmI can't believe Purgatory closed until Friday to "blow" snow around with this storm hitting now. Did they miss the forecast?
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #212 of 125512/4/13 at 6:56pmThread StarterQuote:
Psst- If you were lost in the moment, why did you go home and make a post that really seemed like you were bragging about doing it? I'm not here to play rope ducking police and don't want to make a whole thing out of it, but generally people contrite about their actions do not get on the internet to tell the world about that same action.post #213 of 125512/4/13 at 7:07pmThread StarterQuote:
No more than they missed it when 3 feet of snow fell on their mountain and they didn't open for it a few weeks ago.
Or when they had to open late last year (only Demon open on a limited schedule from Thanksgiving on), got 40"+ of snow around December 16, and continued to keep the entire mountain except demon closed with 5 feet of snow on it until the week of Christmas, despite having snow to open the whole mountain.
"Blowing snow" was a convenient excuse to not open on an early season week that would see little vacation traffic.
The real excuse is that they see no reason to have the mountain open at times when "only" local passholders would come ski. If they can't attract out of area folks to book lodging, mountain stays closed no matter what happens on it. Why open for dump days if it doesn't get you more room reservations?
In just a little over a season, Purg has convinced me to never buy a season pass from them. They don't even want to pretend that they care about the experience of people who buy season passes- if operations don't directly help them sell rooms, they don't operate, which means a mid-November opening to take advantage of a huge storm is out, spending effort to open terrain before high traffic periods is out, selling discounted tickets locally (like they do on the front range, NM, AZ) is out...post #214 of 125512/4/13 at 7:22pmpost #215 of 125512/6/13 at 3:56pm
WC amazing yesterday. 23" and the pass closed most of the day previous. (they reported a total of 89 skiers on Wednesday) Whipped cream- textured powder and fresh tracks from first run to last, mixed in with some wind-scoured and "cement waves" spots. Important to be aware of the aspect. One had to go looking to ski a bump.post #216 of 125512/7/13 at 10:45pmThread StarterQuote:Originally Posted by Mom
WC amazing yesterday. 23" and the pass closed most of the day previous. (they reported a total of 89 skiers on Wednesday) Whipped cream- textured powder and fresh tracks from first run to last, mixed in with some wind-scoured and "cement waves" spots. Important to be aware of the aspect. One had to go looking to ski a bump.
Whipped cream is right! Saturday it was that surprising consistency- it was definitely dense, where the skis wouldn't go very deep at all into the snow, but it also didn't catch and skiing it was smooth as silk.
Had a great day doing my typical Alberta explorations.post #217 of 125512/8/13 at 4:31pmpost #218 of 125512/8/13 at 7:12pmpost #219 of 125512/8/13 at 9:21pmQuote:The real excuse is that they see no reason to have the mountain open at times when "only" local passholders would come ski. If they can't attract out of area folks to book lodging, mountain stays closed no matter what happens on it. Why open for dump days if it doesn't get you more room reservations?
Dos Telluride also drag its feet about opening terrain before Christmas? 96 inch season snowfall, 44 inch base ought to be more than 44% open IMHO. Purgatory is 70% open now.post #220 of 125512/9/13 at 6:45amThread StarterQuote:
Maybe. I don't know Telluride operations too well. In their credit, they have a lot of above timberline terrain with a lot of rock to cover it would stand to reason that they need more of a base. Purg is a relatively mild mountain with no bowls and pretty much grassy slopes everywhere, which means 40" of snow should put the entire mountain in play, if they wanted to do it.
Edited by anachronism - 12/9/13 at 8:35ampost #221 of 125512/9/13 at 6:57am
It takes about 70" base for T-Ride to really ski well everywhere....so I'd guess about 50"to open most of the mountain but maybe a local will chime in. I suspect they are working on opening terrain up but have lots of runs with unconsolidated sugar snow on very steep terrain so working slowly and conservatively to open up stuffpost #222 of 125512/9/13 at 6:59amThread StarterWolf Creek update- man oh man did the place get pounded. Officially it was 19" but there was huge amounts of wind loading that made for sustained waist and chest deep snow through most of Alberta. Unfortunately the wind made it an upside down storm with dense snow on top and light snow on bottom. When you sunk past the dense layer it just served to keep pushing the skis further down in the snow until you stopped.
A lot of people had a great day skiing the huge piles of already cut of snow, and not skiing anything that wasn,'t already tracked in. I have to admit that I got stupid and tried to trail break Tsunami. Terrible idea. I thought that I could cut left and get to the established tracks under the lift before it flattened out, but what happened is I got stuck in chest deep snow trying to straight line a 20* pitch. It took me 2 hours to get back to the lift line track. Snow was so thick that I had to clear snow with my arms to get enough weight of my skis to kick them forward, all while pointed down the fall line on a blue pitch slope. Ugly. The whole Alberta face had about 50" of wind deposited upside down snow with no support in the layer.
People had a lot more fun than me hot lapping Alberta face. I ended up with frostbitten toes and every muscle in my body sore from shifting a few tons of snow to make my way downhill.post #223 of 125512/9/13 at 8:43amThread StarterQuote:Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg
It takes about 70" base for T-Ride to really ski well everywhere....so I'd guess about 50"to open most of the mountain but maybe a local will chime in. I suspect they are working on opening terrain up but have lots of runs with unconsolidated sugar snow on very steep terrain so working slowly and conservatively to open up stuff
That is another factor this year. This has been a really nasty snowpack. Depth Hoar, big time wind slab, wet snow, giant surface hoar, and this latest storm that came in dropped a ton of windloaded snow, and did it upside down with the highest density snow on top of low density stuff.
I have seen more inbound avalanches just in this portion of the year than I can ever remember in an entire year of resort skiing.
Friday a slab of about 20' wide let go less than 10 feet from the bootpack to get from Alberta Chair to Knife Ridge. Broke off in several VW sized slabs about 4' deep. I saw that on Saturday and decided I would not be testing any of my favored Knife Ridge stashes that day.post #224 of 125512/9/13 at 10:21am
Crested Butte has been getting its fair share. The reported base is 46" and the resort has been opening up new terrain at a blistering pace. Boot packers and patrol have already begun working their way into the steeps and I wouldn't be surprised if the extremes officially open by next weekend. Yesterday they opened up Bakery and West Wall, both of which have a slope angle north of 40 and they were running packers and patrol up the high lift. Cuts, bombs and other attempts to trigger slides have made it pretty obvious that the base is rock solid compared to years past when things were sliding right down to the ground. As far as I'm aware, the only thing that slid so far was Headwall so another good dump should bring the extremes to life 1-2 months sooner than I've seen in several years.post #225 of 125512/9/13 at 10:23amThread StarterQuote:Originally Posted by Smushie
Cuts, bombs and other attempts to trigger slides have made it pretty obvious that the base is rock solid compared to years past when things were sliding right down to the ground. As far as I'm aware, the only thing that slid so far was Headwall so another good dump should bring the extremes to life 1-2 months sooner than I've seen in several years.
Sounds like the snowpack is in a lot better shape than the San Juans, then.post #226 of 125512/9/13 at 12:51pmpost #227 of 125512/10/13 at 10:31ampost #228 of 125512/11/13 at 4:31pm
Pallavicini and the Alleys opened at A-basin today. Back Bowls at Vail open this weekend.
CO/NM has a great start to the season!post #229 of 125512/14/13 at 5:17pmThread Starter
Wolf Creek posted on Facebook this week their belief that they had the most snow in North America (I believe based on base depth).
After last weeks storm, they had almost an 80" base that consolidated down, and if anything, that was conservative. There was 50-60" of fresh snow through a large band of Alberta on top of whatever is the packed in base there.
I never quite got to experience Wolf on a 100-150" base last year, but I think that will happen this year.
I'm going to be skiing at either Loveland or A-bay around Christmas- Looks like Loveland may be the better option with every chair but 9 open. I don't suppose A-bay is anywhere close to having Zuma open?post #230 of 125512/14/13 at 9:01pmQuote:
I'm sure LL has more terrain open, but Al says A-Bay has started doing work on the backside.post #231 of 125512/14/13 at 10:36pm
A-Basin is 40% open and Loveland 38%. Both are notoriously slow to get fully open. Since 1988 Loveland averages 60% open mid-December and 68% Christmas week, while A-Basin averages 38% open mid-December and 58% Christmas week.
Wolf Creek has had 151 inches snowfall and a 68 inch base. The only close competitor is Whitewater with 157 inches snowfall and a 54 inch base. Whitewater is an area that fits anachronism's preferences quite well.post #232 of 125512/14/13 at 11:50pmThread StarterQuote:
Both have a lot of very exposed full South facing terrain. Both also are pretty rigorous about coverage standards, from what I can tell. I usually have partner passes to Loveland and follow their terrain openings pretty closely, and getting chair 8 (full south exposure) open by Mid December is a pretty good sign.
This year, thanks to the awesome deal of a $200 Silverton pass, I have 5 days at Loveland, 5 at Abay, and 5 at Monarch. I would like to save the Abay days until May/June, but I also have family members that committed heresy and bought an epic pass this year, so I will probably finds myself at Abay.post #233 of 125512/15/13 at 3:56pm
I believe the coverage issues at both Loveland and A-Basin are due to low density snow that gets blown away. Any snow that actually stays on the ground at either place preserves very well, as noted during the Gathering Week in 2011. Even Loveland Chair 8 was mostly packed powder on April 9. There were also still a lot of exposed rocks up high at Loveland despite 450 inches of snowfall.Quote:Both also are pretty rigorous about coverage standards, from what I can tell.
I've observed that there are varying standards in that regard. As you know Wolf Creek is one of the laissez-faire areas. Others are Bridger Bowl, Crystal Mt., Red Mt. and Lake Louise. Lake Louise currently claims 57% open on a 15-17 inch base, must be a minefield.post #234 of 125512/15/13 at 3:59pmThread StarterQuote:Originally Posted by Tony Crocker
I believe the coverage issues at both Loveland and A-Basin are due to low density snow that gets blown away. Any snow that actually stays on the ground at either place preserves very well, as noted during the Gathering Week in 2011. Even Loveland Chair 8 was mostly packed powder on April 9. There were also still a lot of exposed rocks up high at Loveland despite 450 inches of snowfall.
Yes, wind scour surely plays a role, and it seems Loveland especially does not seem to catch it anywhere after it gets blown off the ridge.post #235 of 125512/16/13 at 1:26pmQuote:
Yep, it all blows over to A-Basin so be sure to go there.post #236 of 125512/17/13 at 5:26pmpost #237 of 125512/20/13 at 1:58pm
Looks like we'll get some decent snow spite of the forecast otherwise:Quote:Completely busted forecast...snow fell last night and more will fall today with 3-6 inches total accumulation for most areas. There will be a break Friday night, then more snow showers for the northern 2/3rds of Colorado on Saturday with snow lasting through Sunday for the northern 1/3rd of Colorado. Total weekend accumuations will be 3-6+ inches for most areas, with more further north.
Hopefully you didn't make other plans based on the crappy forecast, like me. You'd think I'd eventually learn to never trust a weather forecast.
Edit: anyone tracking any other forecasts that did better that Joel on this storm?
Edit 2: Looks like the Beav is really getting it:
Edited by tball - 12/20/13 at 3:07pmpost #238 of 125512/20/13 at 2:44pmThread Starterpost #239 of 125512/22/13 at 7:41ampost #240 of 125512/22/13 at 8:05pm
Mary Jane was spectacular today. Parsens was closed yesterday because of fog -- today there was mid-calf to knee deep snow in the trees and lovely crud to ski. Best day of the season (day 24).
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