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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Hi!  My name is Jimmy and would like to ask for a minute of your time to discuss about skiing related events.  I'm putting together a presentation on how Powder Magazine can improve their events section on their website and engage better with their community which will be then sent for their review.

 

http://www.powdermag.com/category/stories/events/

 

I'm not very knowledgeable about the ski community so please explain your answers like i'm a 10 year old :).

 

1.) What types of ski or ski community events do you attend?  

 

2.) What would you like to see more of?

 

3.) What platforms do you use to keep reminders?  Facebook, Google Calendar, iCalendar, etc.

 

4.) Do you use sites such as eventbrite or meetup for events or social gatherings?

 

5.) Any other thoughts, ideas, or resources you know that Ski events and Powder magazine in general can adopt pertaining to their events section.

 

Thank you very much for your time!

post #2 of 24
Sounds suspiciously like another candidate for the homework forum.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 

You got me:)  While this is an assignment for class.  I will, however, send it to powder magazine the presentation and recommendations.

post #4 of 24

The Internet has made people so damn lazy. We're supposed to go research Powder's events section, which we may or may not have ever seen, and then give you all the answers? How about you make some suggestions (i.e. do some work), then ask if they're any good. 

post #5 of 24

What is it about skiing (or this forum) that draws this crap in? I don't see it on any other forum I frequent.

post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 

Maybe I framed the question in the wrong way and did not state my intentions.  I don't want to give the impression that I'm making somebody else doing my homework as it has been interpreted.

 

I'm taking a User Experience Design class and one of the main components of this class is to ask people for their feedback so as to make a product better.

 

Powder magazine was my assignment to improve the website by soliciting skiers opinions so as to redesign the events section around their tastes and preferences.

 

My apologies if this offended you or violated any social norms here.

post #7 of 24
The first thing a User Experience class should teach you is that user experiences are personal and you have to have your own personal experience to have any success. Do you have any user experiences of your own that you wish to share with us? Our education system is going to Hell in a handbasket.
post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 

Fatchance,

 

Of course!  I can share some of my observation so far of the skiers on this forum from this thread or what you would call a 'user experience' and how Powder Magazine could apply it to their events section.

 

It seems that people here may be hesitant to include strangers or people with ulterior motives (such as a person soliciting them for ideas for a class :)).  With that said I would advise Powder Magazine to make the events on their page less inclusive of non-skiers or people not already involved in the community.

 

To promote these events I would recommend using social media as it does seem this group is internet savvy.  This would involve the use of sites such as facebook events, eventbrite and/or meetup.  However, they should be created with exclusivity in mind so as to prevent the likelihood of unwanted people from crashing these events and pestering people to help them with their homework.

 

Would this be a fair assessment?  I can also provide a mock up of how I would redesign Powder Magazine's website to reflect this if you would like.

 

Let me know what you think!

 

Thanks, Jimmy  

post #9 of 24
The reason we're all cranky is that your User Experience class/Powder has already been here. I think we need to start demanding professors' names, as it's started to be an annual thing. Pretty sure six or seven years ago we were more interested in helping. At least I was. Seems like clinical trials and focus groups pay you for your input.
post #10 of 24
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Sounds suspiciously like another candidate for the homework forum.

 

We really should have a homework forum. Move all the homework threads there and have them ask eachother these questions.

post #11 of 24

The Kids' Table

post #12 of 24

what you shoulda done is ask something really specific like, "I like to ski but I also want to meet up with other skiers and be part of some events.  I saw there was a meet-up at ______ and at ______.  What are those like and how do get connected?" 

 

But you could also comb through many other such threads and do the time-consuming work yourself to come to reflect on those and come to some interesting conclusions.  In fact, if you had done something like that and presented your conclusions in a new thread you would likely have started a multi-page thread with lots more info.

post #13 of 24

Hey OP, maybe you should ask for this input over at tetongravity.com  

There aren't as many uncooperative, cranky old farts over there; it's a much younger crowd.  They would probably be a lot more willing to provide constructive input.

post #14 of 24
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Hey OP, maybe you should ask for this input over at tetongravity.com  

There aren't as many uncooperative, cranky old farts over there; it's a much younger crowd.  They would probably be a lot more willing to provide constructive input.

 

But make sure you post in the right forum.

post #15 of 24
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Hi!  My name is Jimmy and would like to ask for a minute of your time to discuss about skiing related events. 

 

So it is your instructor that gave you this assignment for powder magazine even though you don't ski, right? You didn't choose it yourself? I think we really need the name of the instructor.

post #16 of 24
Wasn't TGR started when Powder mag shut down its forum? They should have plenty of insight about it.
post #17 of 24
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Wasn't TGR started when Powder mag shut down its forum? They should have plenty of insight about it.
 

:rotflmao: 

post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 

Wow.  Thanks for all your insights guys!  I'll comb through the forums, check out tetongravity and change my approach (when soliciting answers from another forum of course).

 

 

I will definitely make a note to my teacher about the users on this forum's displeasure about being asked the same questions over and over and over; year after year.  I can see how that gets really annoying.

post #19 of 24

I don't understand why people here get so bent out of shape by students asking for help.  I don't find it annoying and if I did, I would ignore it.  If it bothers you don't respond to it.  The OP asked politely and doesn't IMO deserve the reception he is getting here.

 

I work at a resort and am there everyday, so I am not probably the best to respond to this.

 

I like free demo days.  I used to attend fun telemark races before I went pro.  Free live music is good.  Food and drink specials are good.  We have a locals Easter Keg hunt that is popular.  Another event that is huge is the annual Pole, Pedal, Paddle race.  Having kid specific activities is also a great idea.

post #20 of 24

Understand your point, but it's really quite simple. These "students" aren't interested in contributing anything to the forum and always are single-posters, often seem like they're looking for someone to do their work for them, and may or may not be business enterprises posing as students to get market info. And there have been a lot of them over the years. 

 

In this case, the student in question asked a bunch of generic questions that made it seem like we're writing his paper for him. If he asked pointed questions that showed some insight on his part, I, for one, would have been more inclined to help. 

 

Frankly, just ignoring it is doing him less of a service. At least now he understands what doesn't really work and can create a new research strategy.

post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by jshen9393 View Post
 

Hi!  My name is Jimmy and would like to ask for a minute of your time to discuss about skiing related events.  I'm putting together a presentation on how Powder Magazine can improve their events section on their website and engage better with their community which will be then sent for their review.

 

http://www.powdermag.com/category/stories/events/

 

I'm not very knowledgeable about the ski community so please explain your answers like i'm a 10 year old :).

 

1.) What types of ski or ski community events do you attend?  

 

2.) What would you like to see more of?

 

3.) What platforms do you use to keep reminders?  Facebook, Google Calendar, iCalendar, etc.

 

4.) Do you use sites such as eventbrite or meetup for events or social gatherings?

 

5.) Any other thoughts, ideas, or resources you know that Ski events and Powder magazine in general can adopt pertaining to their events section.

 

Thank you very much for your time!


Since I am also a Jimmy I will try to reply although I don't think I am going to be very helpful because I'm a old dude.

1.  I go some EpicSki gatherings.  I go to some spring carnival type ski weekends.  I try to stay away from ski areas on major winter holidays because of the crowds.  Demo days and customer appreciation days with discount lift tickets are always good.

2.  I wish we still had a good preseason ski show/exhibition in the Wash DC area. 

3.  Yellow sticky pads.

4. No, but I use some online ski forums like EpicSki.

5.  Have never looked at Powder Mags events section, but free promotions are always good.

post #22 of 24
Thread Starter 

You do make good points and I'm a fan of unbridled and direct honesty.  For better or for worse, I do really appreciate that from the users of this forum

 

I am absolutely, positively not representing any companies.  

 

I do however have to explore this fear of helping companies.  We all make our living in one form or another.  I am not a full time student and have a day job.  I'm taking this class part time to expand my mind so I can better help and serve the people that I work for.  

 

Companies work for you as you pay them for something that you want to either excite you or make your life easier.  I don't see the harm in soliciting feedback to improve what they do for you.  I have worked with a lot of people and I'll have to say the worst characteristic I've seen is apathy.  I would rather work with a team full of caring idiots than apathetic geniuses.

post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post
 

Understand your point, but it's really quite simple. These "students" aren't interested in contributing anything to the forum and always are single-posters, often seem like they're looking for someone to do their work for them, and may or may not be business enterprises posing as students to get market info. And there have been a lot of them over the years. 

 

In this case, the student in question asked a bunch of generic questions that made it seem like we're writing his paper for him. If he asked pointed questions that showed some insight on his part, I, for one, would have been more inclined to help. 

 

Frankly, just ignoring it is doing him less of a service. At least now he understands what doesn't really work and can create a new research strategy.

 

I don't have a problem with people who stop by the forum, ask a few questions and move on.  Not everyone has the interest or expendable time to make a ton of posts.  Many people stop by because they want to buy a particular ski and want to get some validation about it.  Even if a lot of people take the time and give thoughtful detailed answers to the questions asked, a student will still need to crunch that data down and compile it into something useful for their paper.  If I were the teacher, the grade would be based on the students conclusions, not the raw data or volume of responses.  If I was a business, I'd be looking to send a few pollsters into the field.  If the data is so valuable, I'd think there are more sophisticated and productive ways to get it than trolling a forum.

post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
 

 

I don't have a problem with people who stop by the forum, ask a few questions and move on.  Not everyone has the interest or expendable time to make a ton of posts.  Many people stop by because they want to buy a particular ski and want to get some validation about it.  Even if a lot of people take the time and give thoughtful detailed answers to the questions asked, a student will still need to crunch that data down and compile it into something useful for their paper.  If I were the teacher, the grade would be based on the students conclusions, not the raw data or volume of responses.  If I was a business, I'd be looking to send a few pollsters into the field.  If the data is so valuable, I'd think there are more sophisticated and productive ways to get it than trolling a forum.

Actually if it's a business trolling forums would be incredibly useful/time effective. It takes maybe 5 mins to make an account and then post something? Not to mention in cases like this that link to a business the traffic generated ties to profit for ads. The link is also now permanently posted. Then there is all the info they can pull from your computer by you just visiting the site. 

 

I'm not saying that's what the op is doing but data mining is hugely profitable right now and trolling threads would be a very efficient way of generating traffic 

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