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post #1 of 10
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What do you think about wearing a full face helmet for racing?  I am trying masters racing/training at Mt. Rose this year and thought I might get the full face POC with MIPS.  I just started wearing a motocross helmet while skiing at the end of last season, and when I went back to my 3/4 Briko I felt naked.  At the speeds I ski, seems like the extra protection would be good.  But how about the additional chances of a broken neck etc..   I know it looks a little kooky, but the added protection seems worth the stares etc..   I would tell others that I had alot of very expensive dental work, which is true.  Was also thinking about the POC 3/4 helmet, as my Briko is now at least 10+ years old.

 

Also, what do I need as far as gear to train?  Have skis, Volkl Racetigers (sl and gs), Head wc (sl and gs), and a pair of Rossi wc cheater skis. 

 

Is the full face POC legal for race training and racing?

 

What else?  Shin gaurds, forearm gaurds?   Not sure about getting a speed suit, as honestly, I might never race, but think the coaching and training should help my skiing.

post #2 of 10

I'm not sure about masters rules but I don't see why you can't wear a full face helmet when you want to.  There are rules about SL and GS for race teams and the requirement to wear Full Face, or at least a chin guard for GS. 

post #3 of 10

I relate; always loved the security of my full face motorcycle helmet. But for skiing, different risks. Pretty sure not allowed in Masters; problem is that lower part can get caught in a tumbling fall when you land on your front, lever the neck kinda like a face mask in football. I wouldn't wear one for that reason even if I could. TC's right that SL requires some kind of front guard, typically a metal or plastic hoop. For keeping the gates out of your teeth. GS, nope. POC will have MIPS Comp and Skull racing helmets next season, I've been told, FWIW.

 

You'll get used to feeling naked...starting with that Spandex outfit that doesn't precisely forgive most of our seconds at dinner. :eek 

post #4 of 10
If are you really worried about your neck they also make neck braces for motorcross. It is a bit overkill for skiing but I can understand how you feel. I'm on my third concussion in 18 months.
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I relate; always loved the security of my full face motorcycle helmet. But for skiing, different risks. Pretty sure not allowed in Masters; problem is that lower part can get caught in a tumbling fall when you land on your front, lever the neck kinda like a face mask in football. I wouldn't wear one for that reason even if I could. TC's right that SL requires some kind of front guard, typically a metal or plastic hoop. For keeping the gates out of your teeth. GS, nope. POC will have MIPS Comp and Skull racing helmets next season, I've been told, FWIW.

You'll get used to feeling naked...starting with that Spandex outfit that doesn't precisely forgive most of our seconds at dinner. eek.gif  

Correct! Full face is dangerous for exactly that reason! And iirc correctly, illegal for masters and any USSA races. Must dig my rule book out and confirm, after all I am a referee..... frown.gif

Reno ski guy, welcome to epic and, more importantly, welcome to mount rose masters, one of the best (and best value!) programs around. As well as being a great bunch of people. Pm me and I can fill you in on details, what you will need ( NOT a full face helmet!) etc. Can also fix you up with what you need or point you where you can get it. wink.gif And yes, you will be In a speed suit before you know it! And we all show our not so perfect bodies in them smile.gif
post #6 of 10
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Thanks to all for the info..   Went to Reno Mountain Sports and spoke to one of their guys, and I am going to be getting a POC..  Most likely not MIPS..  Helmet is around $300.  He reccomended a face gaurd, pole (hand gaurds) and shin gaurds.   I have talked to some of the Rose Masters participants and they seem great.  See them all around the slopes.   New experience for me, so will see how it goes.  What most MXers wear is a Leatt brace or some version of the brace.  Seems it was very popular for awhile now not as popular with the moto racers.   Seems like right after Ernie Fonceca (sp) crashed it was popular.  Would be a real pain for skiing.  But then most thought helmets would be a pain for skiing and look at it now.  Speed suit, will see how into this I get.  Again thanks to all for the great opionions and info..

post #7 of 10

When it comes to racing around here, guys like ScotSkier are the sort you want to listen to. 

As a shop who knows their race gear, you'll have to go a long way to get better info than Start Haus offers. 

 

Good Luck. 

post #8 of 10

Get a mouth guard. They prevent/reduce concussions in addition to protecting teeth.

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post #10 of 10
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Get a mouth guard. They prevent/reduce concussions in addition to protecting teeth.

Mixed bag.  I'd use one only with a slalom helmet with a chin guard to which the mouthguard could be attached  ( to prevent it being swallowed or compromising an airway).  So that means not with GS unless there is some other mechanism to protect the airway - if there is one, I'd be interested.  Worthwhile to note that these help in concussions where it's an impact to the jaw and up (underside of the brain).  They do not mitigate concussions from other directions.  

 

It's also worthwhile to note that most helmets don't protect much from concussions related to tumbling (i.e. shaken baby syndrome) with the exception of the MIPS versions (where there is only one helmet for racing - Sweet which is not available in the US).  There are no racing helmets with MIPS technology available in the US at present - at least that I can find.  I've been looking for them for my kids.  

 

J.

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