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K2 XP vs. Volkl V-Pro

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Have any of you skied both of these skis? I'd be very happy to hear comparative experiences.

Their dimensions aren't entirely different:
K2 XP 115-78-105
V-Pro 113-83-105 (twintip)
The K2 is a bit shaplier and has metal and rubber for dampening. The V-Pro is a wood core - period.

I'll be skiing both this weekend in northern New Hampshire. I'll post my experience. It's not clear what conditions will be like as we will have some weather passing through, but it's a good bet that there won't be deep soft snow. It would be good to hear the perspective of some western bears.

Thanks a bunch.

[ February 05, 2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Bearberry ]
post #2 of 19
I liked both skis, but I liked the K2 XP more. For all-mountain skis I liked the sidecut of the XP. If you're into park/freestyle stuff the choice is obviously the Volkl.

That being said, I liked the Volkl 724 Pro better than the K2 XP. More stable, more energy, little more horsepower overall with basically the same shape. I haven't found it to be nearly as unforgiving as reviews made it out to be. I'd definitely consider it as well.
post #3 of 19
I'm willing to bet that the V-Pro is a better all-round ski, period... especially for the Northeast. Volkls generally have fairly unshakeable hard snow performance, while I can't say the same for K2 skis.
post #4 of 19
I have the K2-XP in my quiver, and it was easily my tool of choice out west for ESA2 at snowbird. That said, I have found it's performance on hard snow to be outstanding. I put a priority on a skis ability to cut a clean arc on firm snow and the XP's wood core, metal laminate GS construction and hi-tech dampining give it great grip and carving power. And while it is built to a 60%-pow, 40%-pack design bias, I would not hesitate to race GS on mine. The ski mags testing have rated the XP as their #1 all-mountain freeride do-it-all ski two years running for good reason, it does it all great!
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post #5 of 19
I have skied both and bought the K2 XPs (174cm). I ski 30-55 days a year mainly at Mary Jane (Winter park), sometimes at Arapahoe Basin, Copper, Loveland, Steamboat and Telluride. I wanted a ski that was stable and forgiving but quick in trees and bumps on powder days and good on steep terrain. I have skied the XPs on a 39" powder day on the double black runs at Loveland, in the Alleys at A-Basin, and the Chutes area at Mary Jane as well as in the trees and bump runs. I loved them everywhere. They are even good for carving on the cruisers. This is my powder day ski for Colorado front range ski areas.
I demoed the Volkl 724 Pro (177cm, same length as the K2) and thought they had great edge hold but were biased toward long turns. If I mainly skied the open back bowls at Vail I might have considered them. I did not think they were as suited for quick turns, bumps, and trees as the K2 XPs. I am 5'11" and 163lbs. A heavier skier or someone who skies eastern hardpack often might prefer the Volkls as they are stiffer and might have slightly better edge hold. I personally prefer my Head iXRC skis on hardpack days.
post #6 of 19
$.01...
Got a chance to demo the K2 XP just for a few hours: Nothing different from Arcmester's opinion.

Have only listened to shop guys about the V-Pro(its stiffness = not a lot of float..?..FWIW) I originally thought I might go with it this season, but I just haven't found it for demo.
post #7 of 19
Demo the new Dynastar Legend 8000 and your choice will be easy. It will match or exceed the edgehold of the V-Pro and outshines the XP by far in every aspect, in my opinion. I was set to buy an XP until I skied the 8000. This will be my next purchase.
post #8 of 19
I haven't skied the XP. I own some V-Pros and have recently demoed some 724 Pros. The 724 Pros had much better edge hold on ice and hard pack than the V-Pros but I prefer my V-Pros in those conditions because they are much more forgiving. I ski an area with lots of moguls, ruts and troughs. The V-Pros are softer than the 724 Pros and easier to maneuver in ruts and at slower speeds. There is really nothing spectacular about the V-Pros but I like them a lot because they are a solid, versital, predictable ski.
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for passing through, Arcmeister. I appreciated your vote of confidence in the K2 - Same to RayC and HaveSkisWillClimb.

Rio, I think I share your feelings on the V-Pro: they carve well, and have just that right degree of stiffness -

I need to demo a pair of Volkl 724 Pros, Matter. I'm afraid they might feel like a fatter version of my Atomic SX:11s, but I'll withold judgment until I try them. I wonder if the AX4 might get nearer to the V-Pro for comparison sake?

Coach13, I hadn't heard about the Dynastar Legend 8000 - a brand new board is born! I've looked around the web to see what I could find - it sounds like a dynamite ski. I definitely want to demo it -

Thanks to all of you - I can hardly wait to get out there and try these skis - We've had a couple of decent snowfalls this week - finally.

[ February 06, 2004, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Bearberry ]
post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally posted by Bearberry:

Coach13, I hadn't heard about the Dynastar Legend 8000 - a brand new board is born! I've looked around the web to see what I could find - it sounds like a dynamite ski. I definitely want to demo it -
The Legend has been in the demo vans for about a while and is now starting to hit the shops. SideCut is 116-79-102 and the radius is 20m at 178 if I remember correctly. Unbelievable pop coming out of turns for a ski of this width.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Well, I took the V-Pros (180cm) and XP (174cm) out for a walk today as promised. They are very different skis and the comparison may not be a fair one. The conditions really favored the XP: typical hard New England surface with a little wet snow on top. The XP was quick & light and had great edge hold (its metal layer showed). As reviews have said, it didn't have a lot of 'pop', but it was very smooth. It was fun to manouevre through bumps and crud (its greater sidecut showed).

The V-Pro felt a little heavy and sluggish by comparison, but I think that this ski is just not the ideal match for today's conditions (though I remember finding a French review saying it was a bit sluggish). I think this ski might really perk up in deeper softer snow.

There was an interesting comment on the Footloose website about the XP saying it felt more like a Volkl than a typical K2.

Coach13: I'm planning to demo that Legend 8000. I'd like my wife to give it a try too - she's looking for a wide midfat. So far I see that it is available in 170, 177, 184cm. Any idea if shorter lengths are made?

[ February 07, 2004, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Bearberry ]
post #12 of 19
Quote:
Originally posted by Bearberry:
Coach13: I'm planning to demo that Legend 8000. I'd like my wife to give it a try too - she's looking for a wide midfat. So far I see that it is available in 170, 177, 184cm. Any idea if shorter lengths are made?
I think 165cm is the shortest available. I'll double check.
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
Coach,
The Dynastar Legend 8000 has arrived in a local shop. They have a 178 mounted for demo. As soon as the school vacations finish, I will be taking them out for a test drive - provided any snow is left by then. The cosmetics are pretty sharp too - ah, those French!!!
Bb
post #14 of 19
It is a sweet ski. Also, if your shop has them, check out the matching Look Pivot bindings that are designed to go with them. They're black and gray with black stripes on the plate to match and align with the stripes on the skis. It's a killer combo, great ski, great binding, if you want to stick a Look binding on the ski. I'm probably going to pick up a pair in 184cm when I find the right deal.

BTW, my shop confirmed that 165cm is the shortest length for the 8000.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Coach - Thanks for the information. I've skied the K2 XPs for 3 days now on very firm conditions with icy patches. The edge hold has been truly excellent. They are also incredibly stable and with a huge sweet spot. I'll be taking them to Utah next week - we'll see how they perform on real snow. I'm curious to see how quick the Dynastars are by comparison and would like to demo a couple of lengths - we know now that they come in 165, 177, & 184. There must be one around 170 or so too. Well, until after Utah, happy trails.
Bb
post #16 of 19
Coach, I agree that the 8000 is the best all round ski to come out in the past few years. My info says 158 is the shortest in all the new legends.
post #17 of 19
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Originally posted by ejc:
Coach, I agree that the 8000 is the best all round ski to come out in the past few years. My info says 158 is the shortest in all the new legends.
Could be. My shop quoted me 165, so who knows.
post #18 of 19
I just got back from JHMR and Targhee....skiied the 724 pros....basically hated the ski.....slow edge to edge.....and surprisingly poor edgehold on ice. Very damp feel....pretty good when skiied fast....poor through all but the softest bumps. Traded them for X screams and could tear up the whole mountain in all conditions. Kinda surprised me. I think the pros at 177 was too short...the x screams are 185 or so....so much quicker in the steep stuff even at a longer length.
post #19 of 19
B-man, I concur with your assessment of the 724's. Very disappointing.

I've demo'd the Legend 8000's twice - in the 178 and 184 lengths - and I believe this is the best all-mountain/big-mountain ski I've ever been on. It's amazingly quick, has incredible snap out of the turn, and it never got afraid at speed.

The retro graphics and the metal tip cap are kind of cool, too. I stacked it up against the Scream 10 Extra Hots, the AK Rockets, and the Atomic MR's. Only the Atomics came close, but they weren't quite as quick - they're also heavier.

This past week saw all kinds of conditions in the Chugach from breakable crust and death chunks to pow to corn and the Legends did it all great.

If you like speed occasionally, you probably want the 184 length.

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Originally posted by Badgerman:
I just got back from JHMR and Targhee....skiied the 724 pros....basically hated the ski.....slow edge to edge.....and surprisingly poor edgehold on ice. Very damp feel....pretty good when skiied fast....poor through all but the softest bumps. Traded them for X screams and could tear up the whole mountain in all conditions. Kinda surprised me. I think the pros at 177 was too short...the x screams are 185 or so....so much quicker in the steep stuff even at a longer length.
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