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Steamboat January 9-13, '14

post #1 of 18
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So long story short, I brought an old college friend into the mix to keep costs down.  He's a low-intermediate boarder, so I needed to pick a mountain with a rep for being a little less challenging than most, and I did not feel like doing a lot of driving.  In the end, Steamboat came through with the best deal for booking in September.  Having been to many other areas, I know it's all a crapshoot, but based on snow reputation, I booked us for early-mid January.  Four nights, three days on the mountain.

 

As for me, I'm the classic, plateaued, high-intermediate skier.  Being from Michigan, I know my crust/ice well :D; I carve pretty well and can confidently ski groomed blacks; I can handle powder and crud (if the powder flies, so much the better ;)); I can survive bumps with a lot of bad technique/hesitation.  Additionally, this will be the first season that I give in to the helmet trend after almost 20 years on skis, so I feel I'm ready to duck into the trees around the intermediate runs.  I'd also like to work on my basic mogul technique.  That said, before it's suggested, not sure I can squeeze in a lesson being on a trip with one of my best friends.

 

I know that the overall opinions on Steamboat's terrain are rather divided, but given that we won't be hucking cornices and cliffs, the things I'm looking for from people who've been there, and/or are locals are:

 

1. What's the best low-intermediate to mid-intermediate terrain?

 

2. Consensus around the 'net is that Westside, Ted's Ridge, and See Me/See Ya are good tests for the easier blacks, but they are usually groomed.  What are the "easiest" two or three bump runs, for someone looking to practice?  Are the trees off the intermediate area around Sunshine Express a good start for trees?

 

3. I've studied the trail map, but I want opinions as to the chairs which best combine my friend's ability and mine, so that at least one half-day/day we can easily take separate runs and meet at the chair (other days, we will just figure it out).

 

4. This is a "cheap" trip (no ski trip is truly cheap), so we're not looking for fancy food, and that's one of the lesser reasons I booked this place.  I've done some initial investigation, but I'd like opinions.  Best burger?  Best pizza?  Best Tex-Mex?  Other advice for food that's good and won't break the bank?  We're in our mid-20s, so bars are completely acceptable.

post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by F2BNG View Post
 

1. What's the best low-intermediate to mid-intermediate terrain?

 

2. Consensus around the 'net is that Westside, Ted's Ridge, and See Me/See Ya are good tests for the easier blacks, but they are usually groomed.  What are the "easiest" two or three bump runs, for someone looking to practice?  Are the trees off the intermediate area around Sunshine Express a good start for trees?

 

3. I've studied the trail map, but I want opinions as to the chairs which best combine my friend's ability and mine, so that at least one half-day/day we can easily take separate runs and meet at the chair (other days, we will just figure it out).

 

4. This is a "cheap" trip (no ski trip is truly cheap), so we're not looking for fancy food, and that's one of the lesser reasons I booked this place.  I've done some initial investigation, but I'd like opinions.  Best burger?  Best pizza?  Best Tex-Mex?  Other advice for food that's good and won't break the bank?  We're in our mid-20s, so bars are completely acceptable.

 

1. Sunshine area.

 

2.  Easiest blacks... Westside, Rolex if it's groomed, Hurricane if it's groomed, See Me, 1 and 2 o'clock.  Easiest bumps... Norther and Surprise, both are mellow, short and you can bail out.  Easiest trees... yes, sunshine.

 

3.  Again sunshine area.

 

4.  Best burger?  Carls, also Rusted Porch has decent burgers and a good tap.  Best pizza?  Brooklyns for NY-style.  Best Mexican?  Taco Cabo (west of town, don't be scared by the gas pumps).  Other options?  T-bar for apres and fantastic, cheap food, Carl's for dinner and happies. And since you're in your 20's, late night shenanigans... Sunpies and Old Town Pub.

post #3 of 18

Food: Carl's has good burgers

The happy hour at Mahogany Ridge is pretty cheap--$1 tapas and 1/2 off drinks. 

I like the Rio Grande for Tex Mex. Seems people either love it or hate it, but food is so subjective anyway.

post #4 of 18
Does your friend know he was "brought into the mix to keep costs down"? wink.gif
post #5 of 18

Tam dont be telling people about taco cabo  :D  

 

 

OK, now that she's let the cat out of the bag, taco cabo is mui authentica and just plain outrageously awesome. Its about 1/4ish mile past 13th st on the left side of 40.  Go get a few tacos and support a great local business.  Great beach side look.  The fish burrito is killer and if they have their tamales, grab em'.  

 

Also, check out the  Carne Asada at "Fiesta Jallisco"  (on Anglers Drive)  some of the folks from Cabo are from there.  

 

Another "don't miss" is the T-bar on the mountain, just up from Slope side (which you can skip).  Great local vibe with really good food and drafts but as down to earth as it gets. 

 

I also like 5th st deli which has good food; reasonable prices serves dinner now.  Small local biz.  

 

AND.. I'll throw in Sposta's on Oak (one block off Lincoln/main) between 8th & 9th. Its a sushi place that serves some different styles and types of rolls and such. Its not expensive and is fun. Again, its more locals. Really nice people.  Order a "Sir Mike A'Lot"  Hint bacon... nuff' said.

 

I would be happy to show you around some of the terrain you are looking for; and some other stuff you will love but won't read about on the web; steamboat is about what's not on the map. 


Edited by Finndog - 10/4/13 at 6:20pm
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice.  I've been to quite a few other areas with family, so it's hardly my first western trip, but I find they're all a little different.  My dad and uncle spent a few days in Steamboat in 1980, I imagine the mountain has at least doubled, if not tripled, in size since then.

 

qcanoe: Nah, I was joking a little ;).  After our Isle Royale NP backpacking trip in August was a success, we talked about doing a trip out west, but I wasn't sure as to his ability or commitment.  We've lived in separate parts of the state since the Michigan Tech years.  Frankly, still not quite sure about his ability ("I can do greens and blues"), but as long as he doesn't plop down in the middle of a run as boarders are apt to do, I'm going to let him do his thing. :p

 

Finndog: May take you up on that as the departure date comes closer

post #7 of 18
In my experience, if you're of vastly different abilities and you want to stay friends, set a time to meet up for lunch and end of day, then find your own paths. Just my 2¢...
post #8 of 18

they will be fine, there are plenty of areas where you can ski blue groomers while the rest can jump into great tree runs. Plus he said 1/2 day. 

post #9 of 18

Couple things in addition to what others have said -

 

Surprise is a short run that was bumped up when I was there; it's right off of Why Not so someone less adventurous can stick to the greens and So What and then you can meet up again at the Burgess Creek lift.

 

Triangle 3 may be a good glade for you to try out once you are comfortable, because you can always bail out of it back onto Storm Peak North trail at its left edge. Then in the meantime your buddy can do Buddy's Run --> Calf Roper and you can recover down at the Four Points hut :)

 

Also for food, if you're really looking to save money, could always self-cater a bit. The nearby Safeway has a bunch of prepared soups for example that are super cheap and tasty and only require microwaving.

 

Haha, this is making me excited to go back there this year! 

post #10 of 18

unless you are comfortable with steeper bumped out stuff with trees, I would avoid the upper section of triangle. Ski down storm peak north and cut into the lower section which offers fun often overlooked low angle powder with widely spaced trees and little spots to get a couple feet of air off of.  That can easily skied by any intermediate. Increasing in difficulty but not difficult for any intermediate bump skier; Cut to the skiers right, cross the road and continue under the bar-ski lift line down. Its narrower but not that steep and almost always soft. It is bumped out usually but its a great line. Jump back on the Bar lift and repeat as needed....

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unless you are comfortable with steeper bumped out stuff with trees, I would avoid the upper section of triangle. Ski down storm peak north and cut into the lower section which offers fun often overlooked low angle powder with widely spaced trees and little spots to get a couple feet of air off of.  That can easily skied by any intermediate. Increasing in difficulty but not difficult for any intermediate bump skier; Cut to the skiers right, cross the road and continue under the bar-ski lift line down. Its narrower but not that steep and almost always soft. It is bumped out usually but its a great line. Jump back on the Bar lift and repeat as needed....

 

Hey FD -- I may have to pick your brains on Steamboat in a year or so.

post #12 of 18
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Hey FD -- I may have to pick your brains on Steamboat in a year or so.

 

If you like the kinds of info you're getting about Steamboat, you might want to re-think your timing. Of course you can wait a year, but by that time Finn is almost certain to have traded in for upgraded brains, and you don't know for sure if the info that issues from next year's model will suit your personal needs and preferences. My recommendation is to hedge your bets by taking notes now and then doing it again in a year. That way you can compare performance between the two interviews and opt for whichever results work better for you. 

post #13 of 18

Ouch! Not sure if Im honored or were just called mentally deficient?  :confused

post #14 of 18
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Ouch! Not sure if Im honored or were just called mentally deficient?  confused.gif

I'd say it means your brains are like skis.
post #15 of 18
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Ouch! Not sure if Im honored or were just called mentally deficient?  :confused

 

Mostly honored, mildly teased, definitely not mentally deficient. Sibhusky got it.

post #16 of 18

no, i'm good and honored.  i really could use an upgrade though!Thumbs Up

post #17 of 18

We'll be coming in the day after you leave (1/14-20).  Save us some powder! :)

post #18 of 18
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We'll be coming in the day after you leave (1/14-20).  Save us some powder! :)

We'll try - maybe. ;)

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