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Tuning Ballet Skis

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Does anyone have tips for tuning ballet skis? I have an old pair of Hart Ballets that I dropped off for restoration and tuning. The 20 something ski tech has never seen anything like them. Any tips I can pass on to him would be helpful. I plan to use them for ballet.

post #2 of 20

"Detune" is a more appropriate word hahaha..  Careful, there are at least two people here that have searching furiously for a pair of skiable hart ballets.  Anyway, I used to detune everything except directly under the boots and bindings of my ballet skis.  Snow Dancer and Morrison Claystone are the more active members here that can give you more detailed instructions.

post #3 of 20

2* (base)/-1*(side) should just about do it. 


Edited by Philpug - 10/1/13 at 9:24pm
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by daisypetal View Post
 

Does anyone have tips for tuning ballet skis? I have an old pair of Hart Ballets that I dropped off for restoration and tuning. The 20 something ski tech has never seen anything like them. Any tips I can pass on to him would be helpful. I plan to use them for ballet.

 

Welcome to EpicSki.  

I hope you report back when you get a chance to get on these skis. 

post #5 of 20

Yeah...take them for a "spin". :eek

post #6 of 20

On my harts I actually rounded the edges by running a sanding block over them until they were dull. On the skis I currently use, I use a 2° base bevel and a 0° side and it works pretty well. I have found that a 1° base bevel also works.

post #7 of 20

Just avoid the NutCracker.....:D

post #8 of 20

Yeah, I use to do that stuff,  1:1 or leave the alone............................   :-)

post #9 of 20

If I recall most ballet skis came with factory convex bases so the edges wouldn't grab when spinning. Back in the day at our ski shop we would tape up a flexible file to bevel them heavily without ever grinding or planing the base. Also lots of dulling to the tip and tail edges. As one who valued race tunes this always pained me!

post #10 of 20

What length are the skis in your avatars? They look way too short for ballet!

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 

I am on Snowjam ski boards 99cm. Those were my attempt at a ski for ballet - not great, but I have fun on them. Thanks to everyone for the advice. Since I am new at this I imagine there will be a lot or trial and error with the Harts. Would love to hear more input. And I will keep you all posted.

post #12 of 20

Get some REALLY looooooooooooooong poles too!

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by daisypetal View Post
 

I am on Snowjam ski boards 99cm. Those were my attempt at a ski for ballet - not great, but I have fun on them. Thanks to everyone for the advice. Since I am new at this I imagine there will be a lot or trial and error with the Harts. Would love to hear more input. And I will keep you all posted.

Ok, so what length are the harts? Mine are 160. I'm 5' 10". I'm using 150's and 140's now. Not as limber as I once was, so shorter is better, but not too short.

post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 

Mine are 140 and I am 5'4". Talk about short...I started spinning a few years ago on my retro Bigfoot skis. That is when I got interested in ballet. These are really short! I am a beginner. There is not much training info out there. I am learning everything from a 1975 book I found on Ebay titled Trick and Ballet Skiing by Bob Everson Jr and Spence Williams. It is a Foto-flip book!

post #15 of 20

^^^I was using 140s as ballet skis when I was about that same size.  Those should be just right.  The longer poles will help you jump and spin in the air, also pole flips if you want to try those.. 

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 

Wow, well I am spinning 360 degrees in the air with my short poles. I would love to find longer poles. As a former gymnast (30 yrs ago), I may actullay attempt to flip.

post #17 of 20

I learned ballet watching videos once a week back in the 70's. I'd spend an evening studying the moves on screen and then tried to emulate them the next day on the mountain. YouTube is loaded with ballet videos. Those plus the books ought to get you going really well.

post #18 of 20

The only thing i ever "detuned" on any of my ballet skis since the mid-70s were the tips and tails.  If you know what you're doing when it comes to ballet, its not so much the skis as it is the skier..At Aspen Highlands we used to go from "showing off" on Exhibition, to pounding bumps on Flora Dora (now Scarlets), next to the chair of course into the powder on Steeplechase (no - we never got caught!) all on the same pair of Hart ballets.  I still have these great pics of me and Mindy Willingham doing pairs ballet on lower Exhibition just before the runout to the chair.

 

God how I miss those days BUT:

 

The legend still lives (barely):

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTm_HfyuWrE

 

I think Richard has a ton of long ballet poles, but they are overseas and locked up.

 

Snow Dancer

post #19 of 20

Not entirely forgotten....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5G9W5Xq6ak

 

post #20 of 20

Outstanding!  Not bad for over 60! 

 

Snow Dancer

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