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Durable Ski Pants?

post #1 of 23
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Basically i've been looking for ski pants since last september and i've just had no luck. The biggest problem is there's not many options where I live so I can't go and check anything out for myself. I've been making due just wearing snowboard pants because that's what people sell here, but i'm looking for a big upgrade. I basically need something that is insanely durable, and very wind/waterproof. It can be very cold and windy mid winter or slushy t-shirt weather in spring, so I prefer an excellent shell and layering as opposed to insulated pants.

 

The fit is a big thing for me, i'm a 30 waist and 30 leg. I'm not into the park fit, but i'd prefer it to say a heli hansen pant which feel like skinny jeans. I do like a looser fit for a full range of motion and layering without the MC Hammer look. It's very hard to tell how loose pants are by looking at pictures online. Should also mention i'm not into bibs.

 

Some pants i'm interested in and would love to hear personal opinions on are..

 

Armada Entry gore tex: I ordered Armada Traverse pants and they fit way too big, didn't have the size I needed for exchange so got a refund. Didn't feel very rugged, so hesitant to get the Entry. It should be mentioned they are a fairly low end pant compared to the Entry though.

 

The North Face Freedom pant or The North Face Slasher Pant: For whatever reason they sell their jackets everywhere here, but no pants. I love TNF jackets, so might go this route.

 

Flylow Stash: Hear Flylow is or was quality, never seen a pair though.

 

Arteryx Sabre: They're priced like they're bomber, i've seen them and they always have a bubble but thing going on and I have a laugh. I know people swear by them, but like to here more on why.

 

If you have others in mind feel free to share i'm sure there will be others that will find this helpful as well, i've read the reviews on here for some of the pants would like to hear more. Thanks in advance.


Edited by PoisonTheWell - 9/24/13 at 11:10pm
post #2 of 23

Flylow Chemical pant.

post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
 

Flylow Chemical pant.

 

What do you think about Flylow's waterproofing? It's the one knock i've heard on Flylow pants.

post #4 of 23
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Actually, looks like they've gone to 20k so this might be ideal. I was into the pockets on the stash, but the knee protection on the chemical might be better. Seems like everything i'm after, even the Honey brown colour i've had my heart set on. 

post #5 of 23

Hi Check out the brand "Mammut"-lot's of raves and appear to be high-end outdoor wear. I have been trying to find a air of their women's ski pants on line, to no avail. But you can always order something on line.

post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by alta4susie View Post
 

Hi Check out the brand "Mammut"-lot's of raves and appear to be high-end outdoor wear. I have been trying to find a air of their women's ski pants on line, to no avail. But you can always order something on line.

 

Will do thanks.

post #7 of 23
I am close to your size, same inseam but a size up in the waist. I wear 32 jeans. I have the Patagonia Triolet shell pants in Medium and love them. Had I tried them on ahead of time, I might have gotten the small. You should definitely fit in the small and that changes the inseam from 32 to 30.

Mostly I only wear a tight wicking base layer under them, but I did resort to a mid layer one time. Still plenty of movement and no binding or snug feeling. No MC Hammer look, no bibs, full range of motion. Added bonus is full side zippers.

I know this isn't one of the choices you mentioned above, but I went through the same thing a year ago with the same criteria and a little more (side zips) picked the Triolet and have been very happy with the product. Only wish I had lost a little more weight so I could have fit into the small. It really isn't that big of a deal on these because of the way the cuff is. Even when I'm in snow boots, they don't drag on the ground like my previous pair did (they were a large do it my girth).

Ken
Edited by L&AirC - 9/25/13 at 3:51pm
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
 

Flylow Chemical pant.

+1

 

Haven't had any problems with waterproofing.  I do spray them with DWR spray once in a while since I wash my ski clothes a lot.

post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by PoisonTheWell View Post
 

 

What do you think about Flylow's waterproofing? It's the one knock i've heard on Flylow pants.

 

Dunno, I live in CO so it hasn't been a problem. (I have Flylow stuff but not those pants -- I have heard that they are the bomberest of all bomber pants, though)

post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post

I am close to you size, same inseam but a size up in the waist. I wear 32 jeans. I have the Patagonia Triolet shell pants in Medium and love them. Had I tried them on ahead of time, I might have gotten the small. You should definitely fit in the small and that changes the inseam from 32 to 30.

Mostly I only wear a tight wicking base layer under them, but I did resort to a mid layer one time. Still plenty of movement and no binding or snug feeling. No MC Hammer look, no bibs, full range of motion. Added bonus is full side zippers.

I know this isn't one of the choices you mentioned above, but I went through the same thing a year ago with the same criteria and a little more (side zips) picked the Triolet and have been very happy with the product. Only wish I had lost a little more weight so I could have fit into the small. It really isn't that big of a deal on these because of the way the cuff is. Even when I'm in snow boots, they don't drag on the ground like my previous pair did (they were a large do it my girth).

Ken

 

Thanks Ken, I actually forgot to put Patagonia on my list. I'm not crazy about full side zips though, I wonder if they make the same pant without them'.

post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by RatherPlayThanWork View Post
 

+1

 

Haven't had any problems with waterproofing.  I do spray them with DWR spray once in a while since I wash my ski clothes a lot.

 

 

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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
 

 

Dunno, I live in CO so it hasn't been a problem. (I have Flylow stuff but not those pants -- I have heard that they are the bomberest of all bomber pants, though)

 

I'm really liking what i'm hearing on these, I think them going to 20k should squash all concerns.
post #12 of 23

I'm a 33 waist with 30 inch inseam and have the Arc Teryx Theta SV Bib in a medium regular. Don't love high bibs, but these are low.  Three years in, with mostly resort and backcountry skiing. I love these things. Absolutely bomb proof, though still light weight. Comfortable. Good looking.

 

The only problem is the price. But you get what you pay for. 

post #13 of 23
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The place I order from online gave me a discount on the chemicals, plus I had a couple hundred in store credit so I pulled the trigger on them. Thanks for all the help.

post #14 of 23
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Thanks Ken, I actually forgot to put Patagonia on my list. I'm not crazy about full side zips though, I wonder if they make the same pant without them'.

 

Though this is OBE since you pulled the trigger, I just want to close the loop.

 

I'm not positive but I'm sure the do have shell without side zips.  I'm pretty sure this was the only model with them in that were shells.  I wanted the side zips because I wear knee braces.

 

In dealing with Patagonia, I've found the live chat to be the best way to go.  They have been very helpful and can sort through tons of items by the criteria I give them pretty quick.

post #15 of 23

My North Face Freedoms have held up well over many weeks of use - and they are a good value.

post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post
 

 

Though this is OBE since you pulled the trigger, I just want to close the loop.

 

I'm not positive but I'm sure the do have shell without side zips.  I'm pretty sure this was the only model with them in that were shells.  I wanted the side zips because I wear knee braces.

 

In dealing with Patagonia, I've found the live chat to be the best way to go.  They have been very helpful and can sort through tons of items by the criteria I give them pretty quick.

 

It's still relevant, I have 9 jackets and hopefully now 1 pair of pants I like so odds are i'll pick up another pant.

post #17 of 23

Oh boy, Goldwin, Descente, Kjus, those are all good manufacturers for pants. I especially like the fabrics of Descente ones, but they are not a big fan of vents for some reason. I wear a pair of Goldwin myself. Kjus fit narrower so...

post #18 of 23

try Patagucci Powder Bowl, small.  there's some leftovers from last year around in various shops or on the Patagonia website.

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try Patagucci Powder Bowl, small.  there's some leftovers from last year around in various shops or on the Patagonia website.

 

I wasn't so lucky with the powderbowl, destroyed the cuffs in half a season with my ski edges... not a scratch so far on my mountain hardwear pants with 3 times the time I put on the powderbowl!

post #20 of 23
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I wasn't so lucky with the powderbowl, destroyed the cuffs in half a season with my ski edges... not a scratch so far on my mountain hardwear pants with 3 times the time I put on the powderbowl!

 

That's what I was afraid of, I shred every pant I own so those are out. Which mountain hardwear's do you have?

post #21 of 23
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That's what I was afraid of, I shred every pant I own so those are out. Which mountain hardwear's do you have?

 

I have MH bokta, but I haven't suggested because it's far from being a loose fit, it's primarily an alpine climbing pants, so more athletic fit... I've never had experience with the snowpocalypse, but I'd think it would be very durable too... I'm really impressed with the bokta pants though, it the snowpocalypse is anything close to the bokta it's going to last for a long time! Bokta is discontinued but can be found in some places over the web, but again more like alpine fit than baggy/loose fit

 

I've heard good things about the Arcteryx Sabre pants, and they have a loose fit. Also stay away from Oakley, terrible reviews on durability all over the web! For the price I would expect more than 30 days warranty and better durability!

 

But, Arcteryx, Patagonia, Flylow, Mountain Hardwear, Outdoor Research will fix the pants for you every season if you need, if not for free for a small fee! I'd look into outerwear with good and reliable customer service and warranties, brands that stand up for what they make! I wouldn't be afraid to buy from any reputable brand with good customer service!

post #22 of 23

I have had good luck with ski pants from Spyder, North Face, Volcom and Orage. Normally I buy them from Sierra Trading Post for $120 a pair, sometimes less. Being a gear whore, price and quality matters.

post #23 of 23
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Just to follow up, i've got my chemical pants now. Excactly what I was looking for, thanks a bunch.

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