Originally Posted by Atomicman
True to form? No this is true to form, Kiss my behind! It wasn't intentional, just didn't want to retype once I realized cap locks was on. Our point of Sale and inventory system at our store uses CAPS ONLY and when I connect through remote desktop, I sometimes forget to take it off. I thought you would be a big enough person to ignore the caps and consume the contact. Guess I was wrong there!
Yeah, do your thing. You seem to be obsessed with your poles after the plant. I have never ever struggled or even noticed that. And I believe this is some fantasy you have dreamed up. Once you are finished with the plant touch and moved downhill your poles do not effect anything., What? draggin' on the snow at an angle behind you is going to put you in the backseat. No way! You are dong something else to cause this imbalance.
If you don't believe me, just go to ronlemaster.com and latest images and check out all the slalom shots. It is self evident that once planted/touched the planted/touch pole is no longer any issue., it is behind you at an angle or even parallel with the snow at time.
Pole recovery, really???
think about where you plant/touch. IMHO short poles are going to do more to distort balance then help it. Of course TOO long is a problem too.
First, apologize for not knowing that you were logging in through your POS system at work. Obviously I should have realized. My bad.
Second, I took your suggestion and went to Ron Lemaster's site. Loaded with pics that show what I'm talking about. Counting frames from the top, 3 is the start of the pole plant and 4 would be the start of my fantasy recovery. It continues through 5, 6 and 7. In 7 you will notice the skis are mostly across the fall line, the pole plant that started in 6 has happened. Notice how close the ground is to the skier's uphill side. Approximately frame 2 and 5 would be the recovered frames
I don't understand why you don't think there is a need to recover after a pole plant/touch. It has to get back to where it was, right? I supposed you could swing them way out to the sides but that is just compensating for having poles too long. One of the nice things about shorter poles is it makes you more aggressive in getting forward and down the fall line. Not necessarily your skiing, but your body. In order to do that pole plant, you need to reach for it. Once I went to shorter poles, it was immediately pointed out to me that I was doing that.
Here'e a nice top view. Look at the skier's right ski pole; plants in frame 1 and starts recovering in frame 2 and in three it is still recovering, and is behind the skier. Frame 2 is the part that will cause someone to get in the back seat. This is because as it recovers, since the pole doesn't get shorter, the skier needs to get taller and typically ends up with them being pushed back.
Another good one. From frame 1 (plant) you can see 2- 4 are recovery and in 5 both poles are in front of the skier (recovered).
These skiers do not have their poles way out to the side. These skiers do not have their legs straight. If you stand up straight in you boots and clicked in to your skis, it will appear that you need 50" poles when you really need 46" poles. I originally checked this way (in boots and skis) on my B5 Metrons. That added something like 3" to me. When I went through all that, I posted here about it trying to find a better way to determine the correct length, and most everyone agreed the only real way is experimentation and it is individual preference.
Here's another thread http://www.epicski.com/t/31585/pole-length-help where people are saying use your height X .68 to get your ski pole length. For me that brings me right to 115.6. My poles are 115. For you that would be 48s. I also found a thread where some of the village elders have stated how short their ski poles are compared to the rule of thumb; i.e. being 6'1" and using 48s.
This isn't a fantasy of mine. All my fantasies include Halle Barry. Granted, sometimes there's a pole involved but it is usually on a stage
For the kiss you wanted, back up to this.