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Are they really just for experts?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hello everyone,

Last year I made the switch from snowboarding to skiing and absolutely loved it. So much that I have just outfitted myself with all the gear for this year's season. Having just stepped through the door into the world of all things ski, I was a less than informed consumer when making my purchases. Here is my dilema that I hope someone can assist with.

 

Although I only started skiing last year (4 times), I guess I would consider myself to be a novice intermediate as I felt comfortable on the skis and performed pretty well (according to skier friends). I like skiing in a casual style but quick at times.

 

A local shop helped me pick out a pair of 2014 Head Rev 80 Pro skis. The sales dude (who was very nice BTW), stated that these skis would suit me as I wouldn't outgrow them.

 

http://www.head.com/ski/products/skis/allride/rev-80-pro/5996/?region=eu

 

The issue is that after purchasing the skis, I noticed on Head's website that this model is designed for the following:

 

Facts
Speed fast
Skill very good skiers
Terrain versatile, piste and off-piste
Style

very good skiing technique

 

I do not resemble the above descriptions at all (and may never).

 

Did I get the wrong ski? Will they be difficult to ski?

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

Cheers.

post #2 of 14
And the first question is, where do you ski?
post #3 of 14
I think if you are a true expert you'll get more out of those skis (they have a tight radius and are stiff enough to arc out some very nice turns)...I think that's really what Head is getting at. It's not an 'only experts need apply" sort of thing.

They are not overly stiff; have a bit of tip rocker (marketing rocker? I cannot see it) and a relatively narrow waist (by today's standards) which all add up to them being very user friendly, even for a newbie.

I think you're fine with them; you just won't use all of the skis' potential is all.. The length would be the biggest factor in your ability to handle them comfortably.

I am curious as to why the sales rep would not put you on the 78's. Someone new to skiing will not get any benefits out of the 80 Pro relative to the non pro 78. However the 78 will be relatively lighter and likely easier to handle (the 80 Pro is metal laminate, no?).
Edited by Johnny Sizzler - 9/24/13 at 12:26pm
post #4 of 14

The main problem with a non-expert purchasing an "expert" ski is that they are designed to respond best when they are pushed, and tend not be very forgiving when your are not using them correctly. For instance, skiers in your category tend to ski more off the tails instead of using proper technique to initiate turns with the front of the skis.  If you get your weight a little too far back on stiff expert skis they will more quickly "punish" you by trying to accelerate out from under you, whereas an intermediate ski with a mellower flex will be more forgiving and allow you to be a little more sloppy or inexact with your stance and technique.  Expert skis are fantastic when you are staying on top of them and using them correctly, but if not they can take your for a ride.  The bottom line is that the "sweet spot" is smaller on an expert ski.

 

If you feel like you need to constantly fight the skis to make them do what you want then you are probably on the wrong skis.  My guess is that they will probably work fine for you on groomed runs, but once your take them into bumps or variable snow (which accentuates slightly improper technique) they will be a bit harder to control than a more forgiving ski designed for someone at your current level.  The result ends up being that they may somewhat inhibit you venturing off groomed runs.

 

That being said, as J. Sizzler noted the Rev 80 Pros are still a fairly user friendly ski, so they should be a fun tool for you to take it to the next level if you work at it, but it may take a little more focus than your usual "casual style."

post #5 of 14

Yes, they really are for experts.  Send them to me:yahoo:

post #6 of 14

Don't worry about it; you will be fine.

 

Lot's of skiers prefer "expert" skis.

http://www.epicski.com/t/65117/intermediate-skiers-who-prefer-expert-skis

post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thank you all for your well thought out replies and insights. Great information.

 

To answer sibhusky's question, I have a pass at Cypress Mtn in Vancouver and will be taking a few trips to Whistler.

 

C'mon snow!!!

post #8 of 14

You should check out Mt. Washington on the Island.

post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 

I have been to Mt. Washington a couple times over the years and had a great time. They get a TON of snow.

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Johnny Sizzler View Post


I am curious as to why the sales rep would not put you on the 78's. Someone new to skiing will not get any benefits out of the 80 Pro relative to the non pro 78. However the 78 will be relatively lighter and likely easier to handle (the 80 Pro is metal laminate, no?).

 

The store owner goofed on the price of the 80's and had them for only $50 more than the 78's. The rep said that for $50 more, the wise choice would be to go for the 80's as they are of better construction due to the layer of metal, etc. He said that they would prove to serve me better as my skills progressed.

 

I actually told the guy that I understood the mixup in price and I wouldn't hold them to it. As I just dumped a mint on boots there, they gave me the discounted price.

 

It's a pretty good store actually. They consider themselves to be the premier boot fitter's in Vancouver and considering the time spent and adjustments made, I believe the claim. The shop is Destination Ski in North Vancouver.

post #11 of 14
Rev80 pro can skid or carve around just fine, they are very well behaved.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post

Rev80 pro can skid or carve around just fine, they are very well behaved.

Thanks for the response. Do you own these skis?

post #13 of 14

You'll be fine. Those are good skis to learn on. I learned on those (rental gears) all the way through my intermediate stage until one day I felt they flap a bit too much when going fast, and are not long enough for me anymore (You know the drill for rental stuff. 182s are rare). Then I bought my first pair of skis which are quite a bit stiffer than them. But I'm on the heavier side (200lbs) so lighter dudes should be fine. 

 

Plus 2014 is a good year for the Rev series. IMO the graphics on the top sheet is much better than last year. 

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by manintrees View Post

Thanks for the response. Do you own these skis?

Yep, bought these last season in 177, though my experience with them is mostly on eastern hardpack.
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