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Kastle BMX 88 or LX 92 as a east coast daily driver?

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Thread Starter 

A local shop has a pair of BMX 88's for a great price, and there are deals around the net on LX 92's. Unfortunately for me, demoing these is out of the question as no place around here has a Kastle demo program.

 

I currently ride 2012 Rossignol Scimitars in 186 length and like them, but when things get firmer they leave something to be desired. I also feel they may be a touch too long for me at 6'0 170lb as they were some work in our tight east coast trees. On a day to day basis, i'm poking around the mountain looking for anything fresh but will ski the steep groomers and bumps if there is none to be found (which is sadly more often than i'd like).

 

As for length, I'm thinking either the BMX 88 in 178 or the LX 92 in 174. Do you think either of these skis would be suitable for what i'm looking for? I have a pair of Super 7's for the rare deep day here and going out west.

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Originally Posted by N8M View Post

A local shop has a pair of BMX 88's for a great price, and there are deals around the net on LX 92's. Unfortunately for me, demoing these is out of the question as no place around here has a Kastle demo program.

I currently ride 2012 Rossignol Scimitars in 186 length and like them, but when things get firmer they leave something to be desired. I also feel they may be a touch too long for me at 6'0 170lb as they were some work in our tight east coast trees. On a day to day basis, i'm poking around the mountain looking for anything fresh but will ski the steep groomers and bumps if there is none to be found (which is sadly more often than i'd like).

As for length, I'm thinking either the BMX 88 in 178 or the LX 92 in 174. Do you think either of these skis would be suitable for what i'm looking for? I have a pair of Super 7's for the rare deep day here and going out west.
the LX is a nicer better built ski, hence a 200 more expensive price point. The BMX88 is an ok ski but unit is not a Kastle in feel. The LX is a better Kastle. There is a pair for sale here int he classified from an established member. Jump on them.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks Phil, I was hoping you'd weigh in.

 

Do you think 174 is the right length in the LX 92? Or should I go to 184? I have access to both around the same price. The BMX 88 would be slightly cheaper.

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N8M - I have not skied the LX but would recomend the MX88 for East Coast - I have the MX88 and the BMX98. Big differnce on firm snow. I got the BMX for Western trips and love thhem in the soft snow but not so much on firm snow. MX88 is best ski I have ever skied!
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Pretty much this ^^^^, athough I've reversed it, sorta. Have BMX 98's for soft days back east, they work really well in trees and bumps. So-so on ice. Have also used them out west, do everything well. In fact, the best rounded ski I've ever been on, but nothing's a straight A. Demoed the BMX88's, nothing largely wrong with them but not typical Kastle precision, less of a ski than the 98's. My MX88's, now departed, were my go-to western big mountain frontside ski (take two skis west) for years, definitely an A, but were a bit much for really tight spots back east. 

 

I skied the LX92 also. As a lighter guy think it's a nice compromise. Easier to wiggle through bumps than the MX88's, more ski in every respect than the BMX88's, not quite as supple as the BMX98's, but more edge and a touch better at speed. It or the FX94 would be my pick for a single Kastle to ski both places. 


Edited by beyond - 9/23/13 at 8:12pm
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Pretty much this ^^^^, athough I've reversed it, sorta. Have BMX 98's for soft days back east, they work really well in trees and bumps. So-so on ice. Have also used them out west, do everything well. In fact, the best rounded ski I've ever been on, but nothing's a straight A. Demoed the BMX88's, nothing largely wrong with them but not typical Kastle precision, less of a ski than the 98's. My MX88's, now departed, were my go-to western big mountain frontside ski (take two skis west) for years, definitely an A, but were a bit much for really tight spots back east. 

 

I skied the LX92 also. As a lighter guy think it's a nice compromise. Easier to wiggle through bumps than the MX88's, more ski in every respect than the BMX88's, not quite as supple as the BMX98's, but more edge and a touch better at speed. It or the FX94 would be my pick for a single Kastle to ski both places. 

Thanks, the BMX 88 not being enough of a ski was definitely a concern for me. I'm really down to the LX92 I guess, but having trouble deciding on a size as I am right on the borderline according to Kastle's ski selector. I wonder if the 174 might not be enough, and the 184 too much in the trees and tight spots. In addition, how do you find the float on the LX92's? It's my understanding that they are fully cambered, no early rise or rocker. I suspect that the width of the ski is enough to keep the ski from submarining in new snow? (up to a certain point of course)

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I am 6' 170 as well.  Kastles will provide a longer running length than comparable ski's so a 174 even in the LX with a turned tail is going to be around 152cms running surface; My bet? if the ski was a 176 like the FX 84 'm sure you would say that's long enough but consider that's only .75 of an inch!  For more finesse skiing in bumps and tight spots, that should be fine. IF you were skiing big open long runs at uber speeds, I'd say go 184. I usually mount my ski's BOF so make sure you get the mount location correct.  

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not to throw a monkey wrench in here but how about a ski like a Blizz' Brahma or Bushwacker? it offers great groomer ability but with slight tip/tail rocker would extend that off-piste range a bit.  I am going with an extended quiver this season since there are too many ski's that I like, mx83, LX92, Head 105 (with a home-rockered early rise tail) then a Unleashed Hell or DPS 112 (battle to take place late december)  And maybe, I might have to get the new Rossi Super7. 

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I am 6' 170 as well.  Kastles will provide a longer running length than comparable ski's so a 174 even in the LX with a turned tail is going to be around 152cms running surface...

 

^^^^ This. They do run long. 

 
As far as the Blizzies, have heard nice things about the Brahmas, but IMO the Bushwackers are not an ideal one ski quiver for back here. Handles trees and bumps beautifully, very light touch for sudden moves, nice soft snow exploratory ski, but can get knocked around in rough heavy stuff, and not as much grip as something with metal in it. 
 
Finn, you need an intervention. Just type in my address in the box for Super 7's shipping address. It's for your own good, man...
 
Home rockered tail? :worthless
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OK....  the objective was to create a very minor subtle rockered effect. I wanted just a touch of extra release in the tail for bumps, modest pow and drifting ease.  

 

Here's the tail before, a standard, twin

 

And after some careful bending; about 2.5mm of splay over about 13.5 cm

 

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 

Well, now that you mention the Brahmas... I can get them on pro deal. :eek

 

Never considered those. Do you think those in say a 180 would be what i'm looking for? Or too burly for the trees and tight quarters?

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180 is plenty and you should be fine with those, I think the Bushies are more nimble for softer stuff in trees and all but I do agree they aren't the better choice for hard pack groomed.  

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