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post #61 of 124
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
 

I hope it all melts soon.  People get all excited, but it just sets the stage for another unstable snowpack in Colorado.  It's best when we don't get anything until November.

 

 

I think an unstable snowpack is really just a fact of life for Colorado.  Also, there are some areas in CO that have a real chance of skiing natural snow in October, and we aren't rooting for it to melt off. :)

 

It wouldn't be unstable if it gets buried before it really gets a chance to facet up, and we do have another storm rolling through. I'm very happy that the Colorado moisture has turned to snow rather than flooding, washing out roads, and making my commute hell.

 

I think the biggest reasonable thing to hope for is a snowpack deep enough to prevent slides from being able to step down to the ground facet layer- the layer that is usually there, either from early season snow or just depth hoar that develops through the year. EDIT- I guess I need to refresh my snow stability education- I though depth hoar formation occurs throughout the year, but it doesn't really happen after the snowpack gets deep. Still, most seasons in Colorado are going to have depth hoar. I think it would be better to train people to expect it.

 

The meager snowpack the last two years has been the biggest issue, where the snowpack is small enough to routinely trigger climax slides.


Edited by anachronism - 9/24/13 at 10:23am
post #62 of 124
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
 

I hope it all melts soon.  People get all excited, but it just sets the stage for another unstable snowpack in Colorado.  It's best when we don't get anything until November.

 

As if that ever happens ... 

post #63 of 124
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Originally Posted by green26 View Post
 

This snow is a lot earlier than last year for Taos I think...

 

Waaaaay earlier.  Last year I don't believe it snowed until November.  The year before it was October 1st.  Looks like we are off to a good start!

post #64 of 124

Another nice pic from Copper posted on FB.  The trees are turning, so it time to get up and view the aspens!

 

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More at https://www.facebook.com/CopperMtn/photos_stream

 

Call me skeptical about those Silverton photos.  The radar estimated 24 hour snowfall showed 3-6 inches, which is consistant with the photos Silverton posted from their base.  Even with serious wind loading up high I have a hard time believing those photos are from this year... or maybe I'm just a party pooper.

 

The good news for the snowpack is the widespread early snow cover will result in greater solar reflectivity and cooler temps going forward.  At the very least, that will help snowmaking if the moisture doesn't show up.

post #65 of 124
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Call me skeptical about those Silverton photos.  The radar estimated 24 hour snowfall showed 3-6 inches, which is consistant with the photos Silverton posted from their base.  Even with serious wind loading up high I have a hard time believing those photos are from this year... or maybe I'm just a party pooper.

If you blow up the pictures on their facebook feed, you can see grass and rocks on other slopes that show undoubtedly that this is very early season.

 

The storm rolled in VIOLENTLY. High winds, thunder, lots of lightning, lots of heavy local precipitation- on us it fell as heavy, heavy, rain and hail that triggered lots of slides.

 

I think the pictures are legit. I also think the pictures were taken at a very opportune part of the mountain that got windloaded with just enough to take the pics, and it was likely skiable for a few hundred feet at best before a LONG, LONG, slog down, or up.

post #66 of 124

I love Silverton's social media marketing strategy.  Low angle, high face shot factor for just about every pic haha.

 

post #67 of 124
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Originally Posted by anachronism View Post
 

If you blow up the pictures on their facebook feed, you can see grass and rocks on other slopes that show undoubtedly that this is very early season.

 

The storm rolled in VIOLENTLY. High winds, thunder, lots of lightning, lots of heavy local precipitation- on us it fell as heavy, heavy, rain and hail that triggered lots of slides.

 

I think the pictures are legit. I also think the pictures were taken at a very opportune part of the mountain that got windloaded with just enough to take the pics, and it was likely skiable for a few hundred feet at best before a LONG, LONG, slog down, or up.

 

Yeah, it's definitely possible, but even zooming in on the photos It just looks a little too good to me.  I could be easily convinced with a photo of the reality of the hike and some skiing in grass.  

 

You are probably right, though, as it would be very ballsy of Silverton if they are not legit.  There are much better Internet sleuths out there than me, and it's not worth the risk to their reputation.

post #68 of 124

More info from the Durango Herald.  The ski area told them they got 2-3 feet in spots.

 

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130923/NEWS01/130929802/Turns-of-the-season-

 

Remember that even low lying areas got 1-2" of rain in this storm. That could easily translate to 2+ feet of windload.

 

As an excited passholder, I love the possibility of Silverton opening early.

post #69 of 124
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Originally Posted by tball View Post
 

Call me skeptical about those Silverton photos.  The radar estimated 24 hour snowfall showed 3-6 inches, which is consistant with the photos Silverton posted from their base.  Even with serious wind loading up high I have a hard time believing those photos are from this year... or maybe I'm just a party pooper.

 

 

They always try to have the "first tracks of the season" -- sometimes they are very good at making some things appear like other things, and other times it's legit. :-) No harm in that, in September... 

 

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20060924/NEWS/109240050

 
post #70 of 124

And the debate is squashed?

 

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post #71 of 124
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And the debate is squashed?

 

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I think so. I've seen independent pictures of the Silverton area. The snowline extends to within about 100' of town, and the peaks show solid snow- not a dusting. They got hit. By the way- Wolf Creek got largely missed- they stated the snow amount was 2"

 

I think a picture with the lift in the background and obviously enough snow to ski seals it.

post #72 of 124
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And the debate is squashed?

 

 

Yep, this grass is what I was looking for:

 

 

They must have the perfect spot to do this every year.  Usually a ridge like that has rocks galore.  Pretty impressive first snow in any case.

post #73 of 124

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Bachelor got a trace.

post #74 of 124

My "office" (Ski Cooper, Leadville, CO) yesterday morning:

 

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post #75 of 124

^ I'd ski it.  With my rock skis of course.  What is that random propane tank under the lift for?

post #76 of 124
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^ I'd ski it.  With my rock skis of course.  What is that random propane tank under the lift for?

 

Heat in bottom shack. 

post #77 of 124

Even the East coast is getting in on the action.  Stowe posted this on their facebook page the other day:

 

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Good ol' fashioned ice.  What else do you need?  :cool

post #78 of 124
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As if that ever happens ... 

 

 

Just the best year in at least two decades,   2010-11.

post #79 of 124
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Just the best year in at least two decades,   2010-11.

 

Yeah, again, as if that ever happens!

:D

(Ok, once every 25 years counts... it's just rare.)

post #80 of 124

Either way, I'm enjoying the pics.  Come on winter!

post #81 of 124

Here is mine of Snowbasin, UT today from across the valley

post #82 of 124
Snowing at lake level in Tahoe tonight!
post #83 of 124

Looking at the back side of Baldy (Sun Valley) from my house

 

post #84 of 124

Second snow of the season!   From Copper:

http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/the_mountain/mountain_webcams/Excelerator/index.html

 

And A-basin:

http://arapahoebasin.blogspot.com/2013/09/snowing-and-snowmaking.html

 

Here are a few pics of the leftover first snow at Copper yesterday.  It was an absolutely beautiful day for a mountain bike ride.  I've bashed weather forecasters before, but they nailed the forecast and let me pick the day for my ride right between storms.  Nicely done, thanks.

Not sure I'll ever ride up there again. It was a PIA from the top of Timberline up Gold Digger to the top of Union Peak. Steep, muddy and lots of walking.

 

Newly improved run out in Spaulding Bowl

 

Copper Bowl, Tucker and Jaques, from the top of the Mountain Chief lift

 

As unbelievable as it seems from this picture, five weeks from today ski racers from around the world will be training here on a full length downhill course at the US Ski Team's Speed Center at Copper... thanks to the power of high altitude snowmaking.

Guns ready to go for the downhill training course that will be open 5 weeks!?!?

post #85 of 124

Its snowing at Wolf Creek right now.

post #86 of 124
Winter Park at mid-mountain (Sunspot).

post #87 of 124
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Winter Park at mid-mountain (Sunspot).

 

Well that certainly looks like winter.

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post #89 of 124

6000' on Rainier 9/24 4PM...1st snow storm of the Fall season.

post #90 of 124

Game on at A-basin

Wonder if 6th Alley will be ready for opening day 

 

Good morning, Colorado! (shot taken 6:50am, 9/28/13)

 

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