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First Time Buying Skis - Need some perspective please! Vail

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Thread Starter 

Hi all,  I am 27 and ski out west 7-14 days per year.  I only started seriously skiing in the past 3 years but skied a bit as a kid and played hockey so with 1 lesson and a bunch of days out west, I pretty much taught myself the form.

 

I will be almost exclusively skiing in Vail and wanted your perspective on what I should be buying and why.  

 

I ski pretty much all terrain and would want something for both groomers and powder days since it will be the only ski I will really use.  My level isn't advanced but I ski all black diamonds and some trees.  Really the only thing I'm not doing is moguls and out of bounds...but all of the marked terrain in the back bowls I ski well.

 

Long story short...wanted some suggestions for what I should be looking at.  Backcountry lists "Fat Skis", "All Mountain Skis", etc. and I don't really know what I should be looking for.

 

Thanks so much for your help!  I am 6', 27 years old, 190lbs

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Welcome Jor to Epic Ski. Rather than recommend a ski, I suggest that you find an on mountain ski shop that offers demo rentals. Seek out a shop that has lots of different ski available and get them to recommend skis to try. You also need a ski shop that allows a couple of days rental to be applied to the purchase price.

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I was told to look at these 3 skis: Moment PB&J, Armada TST, and Blizzard Cochise. Any thoughts?
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Those are all going to feel different from each other, so you have two options.  Demo as Dano suggested or pick one and just make it your b!tch.  Option 2 does not work well for everyone, but has served me well, as I can rarely demo skis I am interested in buying.  I have the TST.  If you read any reviews on it you will hear it skis very short. I sold my 183's to buy the 192. I use them on days it has snowed 3"-12" inches as I have Automatics for when it gets deeper. While I can make them work most everywhere, I would rather use a non rockered ski if I am mostly on piste or tracked out snow. Ya a quiver of skis is helpful.

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You can demo at Vail with the demo fee applying to any new ski you purchase. In the spring, they sell their demo/rental skis for a significant discount.
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I skied the Mantras last year which were fun.  I am looking for an all around ski as this will be what i want to use everyday, no matter the conditions (aside from 2' of fresh snow).

 

i'm 6', 190lbs, im leaning towards the 192 TSTs

 

reason i dont want to demo is im buying them with an employee discount at a ski store back east and want to ship them out west which is why i prefer to buy in advance

post #7 of 10

I'm struck that you liked the Mantras, but are leaning toward the TST's. Both are nice, I can't think of two skis that are much more different in design or handling. Would suggest that you at least make a list of the traits you are looking for, make it realistic (no ski can do everything equally well), and then read reviews of these skis. And maybe some others.

 

The Cochise, BTW, will be more on the Mantra side of things, beefy and great grip for a ski that wide, while the PB&J will be more on the TST side, lighter, livelier, more of a freestyle design. So maybe there's a battle for your soul? :eek

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Easy to give this advice since I'm not the one hot to buy new skis.

 

1. Demo different skis every day. Vail will have a stellar selection.

2. At the end of the season, or whenever you find a pair you just love for non-powder days, buy them.

3. Rent powder skis on powder days until you can afford powder skis. Even a little powder will ski better with powder skis than with some do-it-all ski.

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Thread Starter 

Problem is I don't know how to get a good "feel" for skis since I'm a relative newbie on the slopes (but can ski a lot given my lack of experience).

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Originally Posted by jor17 View Post
 

Problem is I don't know how to get a good "feel" for skis since I'm a relative newbie on the slopes (but can ski a lot given my lack of experience).

 

You may be surprised to find that you can already tell the difference between skis.  A good shop can guide you on finding a variety to try.  Take them out on the same runs for the comparison.  Better yet, go to a free demo day.  That's how I started.  I tried whatever was available that was more or less the right length.  I was an advanced intermediate at the time, so could try a variety of types of turns at more than one speed.  It was usually very obvious what was easier and what I really didn't like.  After that, reading reviews by others made a lot more sense.

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