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Any word on goggles?

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
So far you all have helped me to make excellent purchases on skis and mittens. Anyone have a word on goggles. I am again looking for a deal but want something that will increase visability and minimize fog. Any ideas, any links. I live in NYC but have done well with your suggestions buying on line. Thanks again!
post #2 of 27
I really like the new Markers (both the Infinity and Horizon), although I don't know where you can get them on-line. Do you wear a helmet?
post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 
yes I guess I should have mentioned that I do wear a helmut.

Thanks I will look into your suggestions.
post #4 of 27
You might want to look at goggles made by the same company that makes your helmet (if they make goggles). With a helmet, you want to make sure that the vents on the top of the goggles are not covered by your helmet (if it covers them, the goggles will fog). You can look at the Markers and notice how they are shaped so that the top vents are not obstructed by a helmet. Of course, they work really well with Marker helmets!

The other component that I look for is how the strap connects to the goggles and the impact of the helmet on how tight the goggles fit. In some cases, the goggles get squished against the face, in others, the goggles actually sit over the face with the foam not touching it because of how the strap meets the goggle frame. : I would suggest trying some goggles while wearing your own helmet to make sure they fit well together. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
thanks steve that makes sense
post #6 of 27
Hi Rebecca-
One thing that I found with goggles is that the shape of your face makes a big difference in fit, too. Some seem to be contoured more for narrow faces, and some for wider faces, so I wouldn't buy one without trying it on first, much the same with the helmet issue. One that is too wide will allow wind to blow in on the sides (very annoying, as learned by personal experience)
How are the mittens?
post #7 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks dp. I went up with a ski club and everyone was wowed by the gloves. I have to say conditions were mild I did feel a chill on my hands on the chair lift. They are big enough though that I can wear inserts with them. Most of the time they were great just have to test them in more bitter conditions. Thanks.

I guess I will have to try on some goggles this weekend.

Thanks again
post #8 of 27
These goggles have a very good lens. I use the light red polarized and
they are excellent in a variety of light. I have ordered goggles by phone from this company and find their prices good.

http://www.ej-goggles.com/carrera/INV/kimerickicon.html
post #9 of 27
My last 2 pair and my next pair will be Smith (psm or pms or something like that) They work well with a helmet, very rarely will fog and can take a beating. They are relativly cheap (about $60cdn). Get the ones that are made to go over eye glasses, I found they are more fog-proof than the non eyeglass type. They seem to work well for me anyway.
post #10 of 27
I actually had a bad time with Smith Regulators and fog. Switched to Carrera Testas and love them - lots of vents, fog just disappears. And I can't speak for all helmets, but they fit a Giro Fuse perfectly. That said, goggles definitely are something you want to try on first. In the city, Paragon Sports on Union Square, Princeton Ski Shop on 22nd St. and Scandinavian Ski Shop on 57th St. should have decent selections. Bring your helmet and see what works for you.
post #11 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks ski brooklyn,

That helps I have a Giro Nine. Carerra seems to be a popular brand on the east coasts but I was not sure what model to look at.
post #12 of 27
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Thanks ski brooklyn,

That helps I have a Giro Nine. Carerra seems to be a popular brand on the east coasts but I was not sure what model to look at.
I have been looking for a new pair. I am also a mainly east coast skier and have considered the Marker Infinity, Oakley A-Frame, and Carrera Kimerick Icon with the Red Polarized Lens. From everything I have read and been told the Carrera will be the one for me Click Here for the web site It's listed under racing goggles. I ride during the summer with polarized glasses (Native) and love them ( a lot clearer and crisper than standard lenses)

Hope this helps and i will re-post after i get them and try them out [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #13 of 27
Completely agree on the polarized lenses. They're generally more expensive, but I've found they're also much clearer in most light conditions.

Mtbykr, I looked at the Kimericks too, but chose the Testa because it has these 4 huge adjustable vents on the corners. If you have trouble with fog (which I always have, even on cool days) these vents take care of everything. Seriously, fog clouds show up and then disappear in a matter of seconds. On the Carrera website the Testa is listed as a racing goggle just below the group of Kimericks. Take a look and you'll see what I mean. Just a thought.
post #14 of 27
Rebecca
I use the Carrera Kimerick polarized goggles with a Giro 9 helmet. It is a good fit.
post #15 of 27
Quote:
Completely agree on the polarized lenses. They're generally more expensive, but I've found they're also much clearer in most light conditions.

Mtbykr, I looked at the Kimericks too, but chose the Testa because it has these 4 huge adjustable vents on the corners. If you have trouble with fog (which I always have, even on cool days) these vents take care of everything. Seriously, fog clouds show up and then disappear in a matter of seconds. On the Carrera website the Testa is listed as a racing goggle just below the group of Kimericks. Take a look and you'll see what I mean. Just a thought.
ski brooklyn:

thanks for the input, i will look at the testa and see which fits best. did you have any preference of either in regards to the feild of vision. i have had mixed results on my current bolle's with fog--but would rather not take the chance and get the better fog goggles

thanks
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post #16 of 27
Does anyone out there have any experience with Smith World Cup goggles? My local ski shop has them on sale for $15. Are they any good? Do they fog a lot?

Any other inexpensive recommendations? The Markers, Carreras, etc. are out of my price range at this point (I'm saving all I can to put toward the boots and skis!).

Thanks!
post #17 of 27
I think the Kimerick offered a bit better peripheral vision, but not so much that it made a real difference to me. The big difference was 2 people at the shop where I bought them said the Testa was the best anti-fog goggle they sold. I took them at their word because they were pushing them in favor of a couple of more expensive pairs I was looking at. But the key for me was that the Testa fit my face perfectly with no gaps, which probably is the most important factor when choosing goggles.
post #18 of 27
Thread Starter 
Hi Boston forgot your full sign on. I was in Sugarbush over the New Years holiday. We had one day of snowing while skiing. It was very poor visability. I found the smith PMT airflow to be great. I borrowed them from lost and found when my own goggles turned up squashed as I pulled them out of my boot bag. The PMT's did not fog completely once. They would partly fog for a split second here and there but they they quickly defogged. I thought that was a pretty good tester day. Only thing is that they don't accomodate a helmut. That is what brought me to this board. Those smiths were $29 at the slope side ski shop on sale. They had foam covered vents on the bottom and top and I believe a rose colored tint. I think they are $35 regularly but they were great. I wore them with my helmut in a pinch but it was too snug for regular use.
post #19 of 27
With more and more skiers skiing with helmets, goggle manufacturers are now employing dirt bike technology into their ski googles. If you are looking for a google that has good fit with a helmet look for googles that have an independent strap loop that is not directly attached to the goggle frame. This allows for the goggle to sit properly on the face. Scott goggles employ this technology. They have an light amplifier lens that works great in low light conditions.
post #20 of 27
I'm a gear freak, but I'm pretty discretionary with spending too. I actually have two pairs of the $40 smith goggles. No idea what the model. The honest truth is for me they fit great, fit my helmet, and work just fine. They never fog. I have two pair. One is clear for night skiing and cloudy days and the other is rose for flat to moderately sunny. We rarely get bright, sunny days in Maine. This past monday was actually quite bright and I probably could've used a darker or polarized lense.

All the more expensive goggles look cool, but I don't really need them. A polarized lense would be worth the extra money probably.
post #21 of 27
I have three points that may appeal to Bostoneel and others. First, Carrera makes a model called Sawtooth that retails for $20. That's right, and they're well made. Ken Jones in Nashua NH has them. Second, they have a yellow lens. In my opinion you can't beat yellow for flat light, and I find it just fine for bright days, even at 11000 ft, even though my eyes are quite sensitive to bright light. Third, for your $20 you don't get fancy lens coatings that turn to a gummy mess if you blink tears onto the lens or get any snow flakes inside during a face plant. My expensive Scott goggles have the standard pinky-orange lens that really stinks in flat light, and the standard expensive coating that makes them useless should I fall in loose snow. What they do very well is make birch trees or a bright sky with white clouds look beautiful, but I'm glad I found the Sawtooth. No one else seems to make plain yellow lenses any more.
post #22 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys this is helpful info. Schmermen looks like I am becoming a gear freak too. Accessory buying never ends in skiing does it? Seems like there is always something new to make the experience more pleasant, safer, groovier!

I was on Killington during that last weekend blast. I had to buy something on the slope. I went for cheap, as they did not have carrera testa or any bolle at all. I think I paid $52. And they were smiths so that made me made. In the shop they told me the best lens for flat light was a clear lens according to the Oakly guide book. So I may buy that in the future. All of your hints are helpful though. Just don't see myself buying another pair this season. I don't have the make of my smiths as I left the box at the desk and head to the slopes nothing on the goggle.
post #23 of 27
I really like my Zeal Rapt goggles - I got the kit with a rose flash and a yellow lens, which covers all conditions. The rose flash lens is good enough for almost all daylight conditions, so if you only ski days, you might do okay with just the rose flash lens.

They fit nicely on my Boeri Shorty Air helmet, don't fog up, have great optics.

Best goggles I've owned, for sure. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #24 of 27
Out of curiosity, Rebecca, fogging seems to be one of the key issues for you. This prompts me to ask:

- Are you wearing a face mask?

- Are you putting the goggles up on your forehead?

- Are you wearing glasses underneath?

The reason I ask is that I have never had any goggle fog over ever unless one of the above was also true.
post #25 of 27
Yes, that was my point about avoiding fancy anti-fog lens coatings. I sweat a lot when skiing, but have never had fog form in my goggles except when wearing a face mask. The nose cover leaks exhaled breath into my goggles unless I adjust it just right and it stays put.
post #26 of 27
Ah, so! Good on ya, XMM.

Yep, I quit putting them on my forehead and I use these in face-mask conditions:

http://www.pinchoriginal.com

They are far easier to adjust for no fogging than face masks, do not restrict breathing, aren't clammy like neoprene, and don't freeze up (and break up thereby) at the mouth holes like fleece masks.

I use yellow Carreras too, mostly because the Cup model has been made since the dawn of creation and everyone stocks replacement lenses for it, both polarised (Ultrasight) and non. (My newer pair I bought in 1985; they have since changed lens inset but the shape is the same). They fit all three helmets (Boeri Cross 2000, Jofa 2600, Leedom Black Ice). The older pair doesn't fit the Boeri, but it has nice moto-retro styling and soft side rubber. (Can anything that is of the original style craze really be retro?)- we should pop this over to General Ski Discussion.

One of the things I had been meaning to start a thread on is:

Does the width of your helmet and face affect how your goggles fit your helmet? I say YES because the bend radius at the face-edge of the helmet is larger with a bigger head and wider face. So, folks with fat heads (63cm like me, hee) may have less trouble fitting any given goggle to a helmet.

If I do start it, it will be in a different forum (General Ski Gear).
post #27 of 27
I have the Zeal Optics "Aspect" perfect for small faces. Best fit I've ever had in a goggle. They fit very well with my helmet. And usally no fogging problems.
Kathi
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